New Plan I would like to organize a project which is using Sandbox to save short notes
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:04 AM, James Salsman <[email protected]> wrote: > I've studied this question using the same framework I use to track the > WP:SPVA changes. I'm convinced that the English Wikipedia can, given > enough time, handle every kind of controversy except: > > (1) religious disputes (e.g., "Historicity of Jesus... Not to be > confused with Historical Jesus." > > (2) international political disputes (any number of disputed borders > and islands, Israel/Palestine etc.), > > (3) economic disputes pertaining to http://talknicer.com/ehip.pdf and > http://talknicer/egma.pdf > > The issues regarding (1) don't have a material (world) impact; (2) are > intractable outside of Wikipedia, so why even bother; but (3) has > profound real-world political and economic impacts which affect the > Foundation's Mission by altering the extent to which free educational > content can be created and effectively disseminated. However, if > assertions that the issues pertaining to (3) are a result of systemic > bias are met with ridicule. > > So what we have is Wikipedia perpetuating the "fake news" promoted by > trickle down economics that tax cuts for the rich are good. How might > that affect electoral outcomes, for example? > > The best example at present is at > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Economics#Tax_cut_claim_ > in_Fiscal_policy_section > which has stood for months with no interest expressed by any > Wikipedians in addressing the problem. > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: > > Agreed that what we're seeing are Internet-enabled implementations of old > > practices. I think that there has been a recent renewal of awareness of > how > > effective these dark arts can be at generating revenue and perhaps > > affecting political systems. > > > > Over the years, a number of people and organizations have tried to > > manipulate the neutrality of Wikipedia content for political, financial, > or > > PR advantage. I have the impression that the community's human resources > > capacity and technical tools are currently insufficient in comparison to > > the scale of the problems. I'm hoping that some of the tools that are > being > > developed as a part of the anti-harassment initiative will help a little. > > I'm also thinking that a good exercise for students in Wikipedia in > > Education classes would be to identify content that is noncompliant with > > neutrality and verifiability standards, and either change that content > > themselves or flag it for review by more experienced editors. > > > > Pine > > > > > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 5:53 AM, James Salsman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Pine wrote: > >> > > >> > I'm finding it encouraging to see that a number of researchers and > >> > journalists are taking these problems seriously, trying to understand > >> them, > >> > and trying to improve the situation. > >> > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/tech/misinformation-on- > >> social-media-could-outfox-technical-solutions-for-now > >> > >> I'm encouraged by the studies, but confused about why the fake news > >> phenomenon is considered novel, rather than continuations of age-old > >> disinformation, yellow journalism, aggressive public relations, > >> manufactured consent, astroturfing, propaganda, and deceptive > >> marketing. There's nothing new about it other than the term. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wiki-research-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Education mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > -- Best. Shriheeran Logeswaran. _______________________________________________ Education mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
