Hi there Gina, I think this is going to be an insightful presentation for your audience! I'm currently working on an introduction to 'Wikimedia in the Classroom' featuring the projects we've been working on here in the UK. So similarly to Michel, I would love to have access to what you end up producing!
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Re: request for presentations, suggestions, hints (Elly Koepf) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 19:13:08 +0200 > From: Michel Wesseling <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Education <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] request for presentations, > suggestions, hints > Message-ID: > <CAMRMQQWAVxZQb0oG8mkJmOb8-8PskGPrdmrwyk30pDzfJFLgAw@ > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Dear GIna, > Thanks for your message. I would be very interested to have access to your > presentation because I am preparing a similar one later this year. > If you have anything to share, please let me know, so maybe I can comment > and share my thinking about these topics with you. > > Kind greetings and good luck in preparing the presentation. > Michel > > > 2018-03-24 23:10 GMT+01:00 Gina Bennett <[email protected]>: > > > hello Wikimedia education enthusiasts! > > > > Next month I am giving a presentation to a group of my colleagues, who > are > > Adult Basic /Literacy Educators in Canada. My presentation is titled > > "Wikipedia – the overlooked and misunderstood resource". The > presentation > > is scheduled for 1.5 hours but since it's the last presentation of the > day > > nobody will mind if it's a bit shorter ;-) > > > > Here are the main points I want to get across: > > > > - there are several myths about the role of Wikipedia in academic > work & > > I want to dispel these > > - academically rigorous ways to use Wikipedia do exist & we'll talk > > about these > > - learning to navigate Wikipedia provides a "teachable moment" to > > educate your students about academic integrity, a 'neutral point of > > view', > > and the reliability of information. > > - Is knowledge just a collection of 'facts'? Or is knowledge something > > negotiated? Let's discuss our own beliefs about how knowledge is > > constructed, validated, shared, and "owned." > > > > Here's my question: do any of you have presentations (e.g. Powerpoints, > > Slideshare etc.) related to these topics that you'd be willing to share > > with me? Or just any ideas, suggestions, or comments that could work in > my > > presentation? > > > > My apologies if this is an inappropriate forum for such a request. > > > > Gina Bennett; Faculty > > University of the Fraser Valley > > Hope, BC, Canada > > _______________________________________________ > > Education mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:03:55 -0500 > From: Jackie <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Education <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] request for presentations, > suggestions, hints > Message-ID: > <CAOVUmJ8caXZExoo4-JbXJ=f27fLtAd66o=XKYNba25u_B09yPg@ > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Gina, > > So glad to know you are going to present. Sometimes getting Wikipedia on > the roster can be a challenge. I am excited to learn about how it goes. It > seems like you have a great foundation for your presentation and the topics > you're going to cover. > > I would even suggest starting on the ground level with Wikipedia. Your > audience will be a mix of learning styles, and understanding of Wikipedia > amongst attendees will vary for sure. Maybe include a little intro about > Wikipedia with some screenshots. Maybe ask about myths people have heard > and correct them. Also have them do an action item at the end - how are > they planning to use Wikipedia in their practice? > > I generally present on Wikipedia, communication and bias, but I am a K-16 > educator in the US with a focus on disability and inclusion. I'd gladly > listen to you practice your presentation if that would be helpful. > > Best, > > Jackie > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Michel Wesseling <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Dear GIna, > > Thanks for your message. I would be very interested to have access to > your > > presentation because I am preparing a similar one later this year. > > If you have anything to share, please let me know, so maybe I can comment > > and share my thinking about these topics with you. > > > > Kind greetings and good luck in preparing the presentation. > > Michel > > > > > > 2018-03-24 23:10 GMT+01:00 Gina Bennett <[email protected]>: > > > > > hello Wikimedia education enthusiasts! > > > > > > Next month I am giving a presentation to a group of my colleagues, who > > are > > > Adult Basic /Literacy Educators in Canada. My presentation is titled > > > "Wikipedia – the overlooked and misunderstood resource". The > > presentation > > > is scheduled for 1.5 hours but since it's the last presentation of the > > day > > > nobody will mind if it's a bit shorter ;-) > > > > > > Here are the main points I want to get across: > > > > > > - there are several myths about the role of Wikipedia in academic > > work & > > > I want to dispel these > > > - academically rigorous ways to use Wikipedia do exist & we'll talk > > > about these > > > - learning to navigate Wikipedia provides a "teachable moment" to > > > educate your students about academic integrity, a 'neutral point of > > > view', > > > and the reliability of information. > > > - Is knowledge just a collection of 'facts'? Or is knowledge > something > > > negotiated? Let's discuss our own beliefs about how knowledge is > > > constructed, validated, shared, and "owned." > > > > > > Here's my question: do any of you have presentations (e.g. Powerpoints, > > > Slideshare etc.) related to these topics that you'd be willing to share > > > with me? Or just any ideas, suggestions, or comments that could work in > > my > > > presentation? > > > > > > My apologies if this is an inappropriate forum for such a request. > > > > > > Gina Bennett; Faculty > > > University of the Fraser Valley > > > Hope, BC, Canada > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Education mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Education mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > > -- > Jackie Koerner, Ph.D. > Researcher & Visiting Scholar > jackiekoerner.com > > I use a large font to aim for readability and accessibility for all, which > is in line with Universal Design (UD). For more information on UD, visit > http://www.udlcenter.org/. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:39:31 -0700 > From: Kamala Nura <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Wikimedia Education] (no subject) > Message-ID: > <CAG2_E=rE1YfhY9=QViqKzFgWUtw6h2eE951OTBQ1HoC7Rd+GDA@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:51:22 +0200 > From: Gabriel Thullen <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Education <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] request for presentations, > suggestions, hints > Message-ID: > <CAPKdw6D_PNgDPqJgERZgyVSa9uvvkk5oGUbC_ > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Gina, > > I can share with you how I do this in West Africa. The situation there is a > bit different, I was presenting Kiwix (www.kiwix.org), an off-line > Wikipedia reader, to teachers who had very little experience with Internet > in general. They have modern cell phones, laptops but Internet connections > are not reliable and very expensive. > - I start by talking about what happens when the Google something. Most of > these teachers have had access to Internet when they go to cities. I then > show them (I usually have connection through my own phone) that Google > displays information from Wikipedia. So they have probably all used > Wikipedia, even those who do not know specifically about the encyclopedia. > - I then talk about Kiwix and off-line access to Wikipedia > - Each teacher, using Kiwix, looks up a subject that they know a lot about, > in their field of teaching. That way they usually find out that no matter > how much they know, or how much their printed teaching resources show, > there is a lot of information on Wikipedia that is new to them. Sometimes > it is just details, sometimes more important sections of knowledge. > > When distributing Kiwix in West Africa, I have found out that we need to > spend half a day or so exploring the encyclopedia for teachers to be > convinced that it can be useful to them. In my experience in Geneva > (Switzerland) where there are absolutely no connectivity issues, it also > takes a few hours to show and convince my colleagues of the potential of > Wikipedia for their classrooms. > > But you say you have about 1.5 hours. So I would suggest a few ideas: > - Your colleagues probably all know about Wikipedia, but maybe a bit > superficially. I would go over with them how it works: internal links, > external links, related articles, portals, categories, discussion pages, > etc. > - Are some of the adult students foreign language speakers? You could also > show the inter wiki links, and explain that the English Wikipedia has the > most articles, those in other languages are not just translations but have > been written by contributors who may not even speak English! > - Challenge the audience to come up with some information that is not > correct on Wikipedia. I usually do this with my colleagues, and they have > yet to come up with a major error in Wikipedia. I do not count spelling > mistakes... > - I also talk about the way articles a reviewed before publication in > peer-reviewed journals, and compare that to the way articles are written > and improved anonymously on Wikipedia. When an paper is submitted to a > peer-reviewed journal, the reviewers do not know who has written the paper. > They can only judge the paper on it's own merits. Wikipedia is the same: > there is no authority that has signed the article, you have to judge the > article by checking the references... That comparison usually goes well > with university audiences. > > I am very interested in how your presentations goes. Please keep us > informed. > > Best regards > Gabriel > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Jackie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Gina, > > > > So glad to know you are going to present. Sometimes getting Wikipedia on > > the roster can be a challenge. I am excited to learn about how it goes. > It > > seems like you have a great foundation for your presentation and the > topics > > you're going to cover. > > > > I would even suggest starting on the ground level with Wikipedia. Your > > audience will be a mix of learning styles, and understanding of Wikipedia > > amongst attendees will vary for sure. Maybe include a little intro about > > Wikipedia with some screenshots. Maybe ask about myths people have heard > > and correct them. Also have them do an action item at the end - how are > > they planning to use Wikipedia in their practice? > > > > I generally present on Wikipedia, communication and bias, but I am a K-16 > > educator in the US with a focus on disability and inclusion. I'd gladly > > listen to you practice your presentation if that would be helpful. > > > > Best, > > > > Jackie > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Michel Wesseling <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear GIna, > > > Thanks for your message. I would be very interested to have access to > > your > > > presentation because I am preparing a similar one later this year. > > > If you have anything to share, please let me know, so maybe I can > comment > > > and share my thinking about these topics with you. > > > > > > Kind greetings and good luck in preparing the presentation. > > > Michel > > > > > > > > > 2018-03-24 23:10 GMT+01:00 Gina Bennett <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > hello Wikimedia education enthusiasts! > > > > > > > > Next month I am giving a presentation to a group of my colleagues, > who > > > are > > > > Adult Basic /Literacy Educators in Canada. My presentation is titled > > > > "Wikipedia – the overlooked and misunderstood resource". The > > > presentation > > > > is scheduled for 1.5 hours but since it's the last presentation of > the > > > day > > > > nobody will mind if it's a bit shorter ;-) > > > > > > > > Here are the main points I want to get across: > > > > > > > > - there are several myths about the role of Wikipedia in academic > > > work & > > > > I want to dispel these > > > > - academically rigorous ways to use Wikipedia do exist & we'll > talk > > > > about these > > > > - learning to navigate Wikipedia provides a "teachable moment" to > > > > educate your students about academic integrity, a 'neutral point > of > > > > view', > > > > and the reliability of information. > > > > - Is knowledge just a collection of 'facts'? Or is knowledge > > something > > > > negotiated? Let's discuss our own beliefs about how knowledge is > > > > constructed, validated, shared, and "owned." > > > > > > > > Here's my question: do any of you have presentations (e.g. > Powerpoints, > > > > Slideshare etc.) related to these topics that you'd be willing to > share > > > > with me? Or just any ideas, suggestions, or comments that could work > in > > > my > > > > presentation? > > > > > > > > My apologies if this is an inappropriate forum for such a request. > > > > > > > > Gina Bennett; Faculty > > > > University of the Fraser Valley > > > > Hope, BC, Canada > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Education mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Education mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jackie Koerner, Ph.D. > > Researcher & Visiting Scholar > > jackiekoerner.com > > > > I use a large font to aim for readability and accessibility for all, > which > > is in line with Universal Design (UD). For more information on UD, visit > > http://www.udlcenter.org/. > > _______________________________________________ > > Education mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:20:25 +0200 > From: Elly Koepf <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Education <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] request for presentations, > suggestions, hints > Message-ID: > <CAP48umHi=mcOeZbDbOe77wRDYwEvjQUBRSsBGCLgyan8+vbOdg@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Gina, > Hi everybody, > > this is a very nice idea to share presentations and methods behind it. > Thank you for asking! > > First: I really like the title. > I'll go a bit with Jackie: I would also have a short info about what > Wikipedia is. But I mean really short. > As far as I see, everybody knows Wikipedia, but most don't know that it is > written by (nearly) all of us and that it is free to share and to use. > so I like to point the first thing out. Also it is nice to give some > example of who writes it, and that tere is a really community behind. > > What my audiences always love is the citation-button ;) > This could be interesting for you aswell. > Also the difference between citation and wrong licenscing is interesting > for educators I found out. > > Maybe that hepls? > > Good luck. > > > Best, Elly > > Herzlichst, > > Elly Köpf > Projektmanagerin > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0http://wikimedia.de > > Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen > Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns > dabei!http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. > V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts > Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig > anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, > Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > > 2018-03-25 23:51 GMT+02:00 Gabriel Thullen <[email protected]>: > > > Hi Gina, > > > > I can share with you how I do this in West Africa. The situation there > is a > > bit different, I was presenting Kiwix (www.kiwix.org), an off-line > > Wikipedia reader, to teachers who had very little experience with > Internet > > in general. They have modern cell phones, laptops but Internet > connections > > are not reliable and very expensive. > > - I start by talking about what happens when the Google something. Most > of > > these teachers have had access to Internet when they go to cities. I then > > show them (I usually have connection through my own phone) that Google > > displays information from Wikipedia. So they have probably all used > > Wikipedia, even those who do not know specifically about the > encyclopedia. > > - I then talk about Kiwix and off-line access to Wikipedia > > - Each teacher, using Kiwix, looks up a subject that they know a lot > about, > > in their field of teaching. That way they usually find out that no matter > > how much they know, or how much their printed teaching resources show, > > there is a lot of information on Wikipedia that is new to them. Sometimes > > it is just details, sometimes more important sections of knowledge. > > > > When distributing Kiwix in West Africa, I have found out that we need to > > spend half a day or so exploring the encyclopedia for teachers to be > > convinced that it can be useful to them. In my experience in Geneva > > (Switzerland) where there are absolutely no connectivity issues, it also > > takes a few hours to show and convince my colleagues of the potential of > > Wikipedia for their classrooms. > > > > But you say you have about 1.5 hours. So I would suggest a few ideas: > > - Your colleagues probably all know about Wikipedia, but maybe a bit > > superficially. I would go over with them how it works: internal links, > > external links, related articles, portals, categories, discussion pages, > > etc. > > - Are some of the adult students foreign language speakers? You could > also > > show the inter wiki links, and explain that the English Wikipedia has the > > most articles, those in other languages are not just translations but > have > > been written by contributors who may not even speak English! > > - Challenge the audience to come up with some information that is not > > correct on Wikipedia. I usually do this with my colleagues, and they have > > yet to come up with a major error in Wikipedia. I do not count spelling > > mistakes... > > - I also talk about the way articles a reviewed before publication in > > peer-reviewed journals, and compare that to the way articles are written > > and improved anonymously on Wikipedia. When an paper is submitted to a > > peer-reviewed journal, the reviewers do not know who has written the > paper. > > They can only judge the paper on it's own merits. Wikipedia is the same: > > there is no authority that has signed the article, you have to judge the > > article by checking the references... That comparison usually goes well > > with university audiences. > > > > I am very interested in how your presentations goes. Please keep us > > informed. > > > > Best regards > > Gabriel > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Jackie <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Hi Gina, > > > > > > So glad to know you are going to present. Sometimes getting Wikipedia > on > > > the roster can be a challenge. I am excited to learn about how it goes. > > It > > > seems like you have a great foundation for your presentation and the > > topics > > > you're going to cover. > > > > > > I would even suggest starting on the ground level with Wikipedia. Your > > > audience will be a mix of learning styles, and understanding of > Wikipedia > > > amongst attendees will vary for sure. Maybe include a little intro > about > > > Wikipedia with some screenshots. Maybe ask about myths people have > heard > > > and correct them. Also have them do an action item at the end - how are > > > they planning to use Wikipedia in their practice? > > > > > > I generally present on Wikipedia, communication and bias, but I am a > K-16 > > > educator in the US with a focus on disability and inclusion. I'd gladly > > > listen to you practice your presentation if that would be helpful. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Michel Wesseling < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear GIna, > > > > Thanks for your message. I would be very interested to have access to > > > your > > > > presentation because I am preparing a similar one later this year. > > > > If you have anything to share, please let me know, so maybe I can > > comment > > > > and share my thinking about these topics with you. > > > > > > > > Kind greetings and good luck in preparing the presentation. > > > > Michel > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-03-24 23:10 GMT+01:00 Gina Bennett <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > hello Wikimedia education enthusiasts! > > > > > > > > > > Next month I am giving a presentation to a group of my colleagues, > > who > > > > are > > > > > Adult Basic /Literacy Educators in Canada. My presentation is > titled > > > > > "Wikipedia – the overlooked and misunderstood resource". The > > > > presentation > > > > > is scheduled for 1.5 hours but since it's the last presentation of > > the > > > > day > > > > > nobody will mind if it's a bit shorter ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Here are the main points I want to get across: > > > > > > > > > > - there are several myths about the role of Wikipedia in > academic > > > > work & > > > > > I want to dispel these > > > > > - academically rigorous ways to use Wikipedia do exist & we'll > > talk > > > > > about these > > > > > - learning to navigate Wikipedia provides a "teachable moment" > to > > > > > educate your students about academic integrity, a 'neutral point > > of > > > > > view', > > > > > and the reliability of information. > > > > > - Is knowledge just a collection of 'facts'? Or is knowledge > > > something > > > > > negotiated? Let's discuss our own beliefs about how knowledge is > > > > > constructed, validated, shared, and "owned." > > > > > > > > > > Here's my question: do any of you have presentations (e.g. > > Powerpoints, > > > > > Slideshare etc.) related to these topics that you'd be willing to > > share > > > > > with me? Or just any ideas, suggestions, or comments that could > work > > in > > > > my > > > > > presentation? > > > > > > > > > > My apologies if this is an inappropriate forum for such a request. > > > > > > > > > > Gina Bennett; Faculty > > > > > University of the Fraser Valley > > > > > Hope, BC, Canada > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Education mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Education mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jackie Koerner, Ph.D. > > > Researcher & Visiting Scholar > > > jackiekoerner.com > > > > > > I use a large font to aim for readability and accessibility for all, > > which > > > is in line with Universal Design (UD). 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