I reluctantly agreed to this. Personally, I'd rather have them there than
not at all. We should definitely spend some time working on fixing it up;
it's been sitting like this for far too long at this point.

--Shahyar


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Whoops this was meant to be to the public mailing list!
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jon Robson <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:39 PM
> Subject: Non-JavaScript Flow: Hiding non-ready functionality
> To: "Editor engagement list for the core E2 development team."
> <[email protected]>
>
>
> I noticed in a code review today that S was confused to why actions
> are unavailable in titlebar and posts
>
> (.client-nojs .flow-menu" has display:none in CSS)
>
> Recently in the last retrospective the Flow team agreed to record on
> the mailing list decisions, and since this decision happened prior to
> the meeting (about 3/4 weeks ago) I should try my best to record that
> decision.
>
>  May, Danny, Shahyar and I sat down and spoke about the non-JavaScript
> version of the site, in particular with respect to mobile, as many
> mobile devices on slow connections will hit the non-JS site at some
> point.
>
> The summary was that the current non-js needed lots of love, but that
> we should focus on the topic and reply workflows (which are currently
> being looked on as part of this iteration [1])
>
> Any functions that didn't fit into this, where the UX was suboptimal
> would be hidden, even if they were functional. The link to summarize
> for instance will take you to a page like this:
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:S15sspioi5wvqzma&action=edit-topic-summary
>
> The page simply shows a textarea and doesn't really help you
> understand what you are doing.
>
> Likewise clicking edit title takes you to a page like so:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:S15sspioi5wvqzma&action=edit-title&topic_revId=s15sspkmnph1zdua
>
> Displaying them again is pretty easy (Shahyar already has a patch [2])
> but the UX love is much needed before doing so.
>
> [1]
> https://trello.com/c/fp2odUa3/531-g-1-mobile-no-js-make-reply-field-a-link-to-another-page-remove-open-text-fields-3
> [2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153354
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