No, I'm suggesting that the implication of the sentence "As cans of worms go, I'm pretty sure it would not be on the major end of the scale, if an experienced developer actually quantified it." is "Steven didn't do his job" - IOW, that he didn't consult with one of said experienced engineers. I appreciate that's probably not what you intended to communicate; it was, however, what was communicated.
If quantification was incompatible with best practices I wouldn't be working in a job where the first word in the title is "research" ;p. Anyway: this is a distraction from the core point of the thread, so I'll can (of worms) it. On 12 September 2014 16:54, James Salsman <[email protected]> wrote: > Oliver, are you suggesting that asking for quantification is > incompatible with assuming good faith, or implies bad faith? > > Can you think of any editor engagement initiatives over the past years > which were affected by the lack of quantified usability and quality > assurance testing? > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > James, please try assuming a bit of good faith - namely that Steven might > > occasionally work with experienced developers, and consult them on issues > > like this, given that he's the Product Manager for a major engineering > team > > and all ;p. > > > > On 12 September 2014 14:28, James Salsman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> How many estimated days of developer work is the "major can of worms" of > >> delivering thank notifications only, in a new way, to IPs? As cans of > worms > >> go, I'm pretty sure it would not be on the major end of the scale, if an > >> experienced developer actually quantified it. > >> > >> On Sep 12, 2014 6:40 AM, "David Gerard" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 12 September 2014 17:34, Steven Walling <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Actually sending thanks to IPs would require us to either send the > >>> > notification in a new way, or deliver Echo notifications to anonymous > >>> > editors. Either prospect is a major can of worms. > >>> > >>> > >>> Ah, OK! I didn't realise that complication factor ... > >>> > >>> (still it'd be fantastic to have) > >>> > >>> > >>> - d. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> EE mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> EE mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Oliver Keyes > > Research Analyst > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > _______________________________________________ > > EE mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee > > > > _______________________________________________ > EE mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee > -- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
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