Yeah, these are good ideas. I really like that form for create topic and
edit post.

Just to level-set, I had two basic intentions for making changes to the log
items a few months ago:

#1) Put the topic name / board name at the front, so it's easier to tell
topics apart.

#2) Establish something as the "baseline" default action -- the
run-of-the-mill action that doesn't need extra explanation. We've got some
unusual actions on a Flow board (hide, delete, restore), that need to be
called out as special. The basic action -- posting a message on an existing
topic -- doesn't need a full sentence with a subject, object and verb.

But I agree with you that the current version makes some non-baseline
actions invisible -- creating a new topic, editing a post.

Editing a post is important to call out, especially because that explains
the presence/absence of a live diff link.

For creating a new topic: I've been skeptical about including a text
snippet -- "Truncated body of initial post..." -- for every message that's
posted, but for a new topic, it makes sense.

I don't know if "added a new post to the topic" vs "reply to a post" is
meaningful enough to differentiate. For the second post on a topic, it's
just a question of which input field you used. I think for now we could
leave those as the baseline default action.

So how about this -- use Matt's messages for "create/first post in a new
topic" and "edit a post":

(diff | hist) Test post on Wikipedia talk:Flow/Developer test page; 21:09 .
. (+9)‎ . . Mattflaschen (WMF) (talk | contribs) (←Created new topic with
"Truncated body of initial post...")

(diff | hist) Test post on Wikipedia talk:Flow/Developer test page; 21:09 .
. (+8)‎ . . Mattflaschen (WMF) (talk | contribs) (←Edited a post)

But keep "added a new post to the topic" and "replied to a post" as it
currently is:

(diff | hist) Test post on Wikipedia talk:Flow/Developer test page; 21:09 .
. (+8)‎ . . Mattflaschen (WMF) (talk | contribs)

What do you think?


On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Matthew Flaschen <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 10/10/2014 06:46 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>
>> I'd like to think about how we can clarify the Flow recent changes text.
>>
>
> I think using the automatic summary idea also allows being consistent with
> non-Flow actions everywhere (RecentChanges, history, contributions), since
> all of these can show (automatic) edit summaries.
>
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
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