Well, AD *is* Kerberos, but it's another matter entirely to manage the
configuration of Kerberos on the UNIX clients.  If someone doesn't have
support for it today, adding it is non-trivial.

OTOH, it isn't that hard, once you understand how the peices fit together.
 Certainly, being able to help clients leverage this is a valuable service
to offer.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Baldwin Sung 宋志瑞 <[email protected]>wrote:

> The closest thing to Kerberos at one client is Active Directory.
>
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Phillip Moore wrote:
>
>
> Oh, I'm not dropping PAM.  It's perfectly reasonable as coded.
>
> The issue is just the password caching.  The code's there, and it works,
> but I'd prefer NOT to do something that makes security pros scoff at us.
>
> Baldwin, do you have kerberos infrastructure you can leverage in your
> environment?
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Baldwin Sung 宋志瑞 <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> IMHO, the next version of EFS should only support Kerberos. If anybody
>> wants to keep the password caching, stay with the current version of EFS.
>> Keep the PAM support, who knows what else might be plugged in later on.
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Phillip Moore wrote:
>>
>> > Now that we have Kerberos authentication, I don't want to rip out the
>> PAM support, since non-Kerberos enabled sites should be to use EFS.
>> >
>> > But, given the ugliness and complexity of the password caching code, and
>> the fact that every last security expert won't like it (and we don't have
>> much grounds to argue with them), why not just trash it?
>> >
>> > IOW, you'll still be able to authenticate password in efsd via PAM, but
>> the client will require you to submit the password every time, instead of
>> caching it (or attempting to) in ~/.efsconfig.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
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