Glad to hear it was helpful.
 
Mike K.

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From: Pedro M. S. Oliveira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 10/20/2008 06:35
To: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Efw-user] Entering correct subnet mask stops connection?



Really nice explanation!!

I'm an IT teacher myself and sometimes it's really hard to explain this to 
students... i think I'll use your mail...

cheers 

Pedro

On Friday 17 October 2008 18:08:21 Mike Knisely wrote:

> First, I'm happy to hear you're going through the Cisco Academy. I am a 
> graduate of that program and have been an instructor for that curriculum at a 
> local state college. I think that it is an excellent foundation no matter 
> what your IT focus is in the future and would encourage anyone in the IT 
> field to get the first semester book at a minimum. An IT knowledge built on 
> the OSI model (or even TCP/IP model) will do wonders for your troubleshooting 
> skills.

> 

> Next, 16 is not a gateway... 16 in the last octet would be the network 
> number. Network number and Gateway are not the same thing. A gateway is the 
> IP address, from the useable pool of addresses, assigned to another router in 
> that network. All devices that have interfaces should have the same first 
> three octets and the last octet should be a value between (and including) 
> 17-30. Each interface should also have the subnet mask 255.255.255.240. 
> Assuming that the 28-bit mask is correct, anything other than 255.255.255.240 
> for the mask is wrong... not saying it won't work, but it's wrong.

> 

> For a basic example, lets look at this in the good ol' 192.168.1.0 
> 255.255.255.0 space, common to practically every home-class broadband router 
> available. When you unbox the thing, it is configured with an ip address of 
> 192.168.1.1 on it's LAN interface. You would then use that IP address as your 
> "gateway" setting on any internal device. 192.168.1.0 (the network number) 
> isn't typed as a setting anywhere, because it is a mathematical result of 
> "anding" an IP address and the mask. So, if your PC is 192.168.1.10 on this 
> network and your mask is 255.255.255.0 let's "and" them.

> 

> 192.168.1.10 = 11000000.10101000.00000001.00001010

> 255.255.255.0 = 11111111.11111111.11111111.00000000

> anding result = 11000000.10101000.00000001.00000000

> 

> So, we convert that back to decimal and we get 192.168.1.0... Our network 
> number!

> 

> Your original post says that you entered .16 as the "gateway ip" in Endian. 
> That tells me that you have told Endian it needs to go to a router at 
> 88.255.199.16 to get to the Internet. Now that we know that 16 is a network 
> number and not a useable IP address on this network, we see that it 
> definitely is not the correct setting for this field.

> 

> Whomever is giving your a connection to the outside world, probably the same 
> entity that told you to use this address space, should be able to tell you 
> which of your pool of addresses is the correct IP to use as your gateway.

> 

> Mike K. 

> 

> ________________________________

> 

> From: ozgurerdogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Sent: Fri 10/17/2008 03:54

> To: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net

> Subject: Re: [Efw-user] Entering correct subnet mask stops connection?

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Thats exatcly what I meant Mike Knisely. I am a CCNA student and I know all

> what you explained. So I have 16-31 and my netmask would be 255.255.255.240

> and 16 is my gateway (network ID) and 31 is my broadcast ip and I use only

> 17-30 ip inside network.

> 

> I do not remember why I entered 31 as netmask but at the moment it is

> running so. Maybe my datacenter did something in router so I can not enter

> 240, I will call them today. But by entering 240, I think I am doing correct

> settings right?

> 

> Thank you very much.

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