-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Miles Lott escribió: > I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your email and cannot > disagree with any of it. However, we are already past the point where > there is any movement in negotiation. The idea that anyone in the > project or outside of it can put themselves out as the next generation > of development without working with those within the project in an > official and organized manner seems to me to be anarchy, and I am not in > favor of that. There must be organization, especially in such > large-scale endeavors.
I agree with Carsten and 99% with Miles, but if it's just a matter of timeline, and taking that we all want to have a good ending, I just propose, as intermediate point: Why not allow the Metaways developers keep *investigating* in extjs (or whatever) as long as they change the domain (which they already did) but don't bind it in any way to egw? What will happen only time within some months will decide, but trying to exclude it *right now* I think it's an error. I also think it's a mistake trying to decide *right now* that "tine" is *the only* way for future egw, apart from not allowing any kind of compliance with current egw api. Maybe in, let's say, one year, current egw api uses some new api/framework/whatever that makes possible to reach a common intermediate point that, if the tine team still keeps developing and on their belief for unique possible way, at least there's a way to reach integration. And if not in one year, in two years, then three, etc. And maybe the current egw framework has found another way that's even more powerful than others. The summary is that everything can happen in the future in any of both sides. As another side note, and as *I think if I'm wrong* what was done previously with Christian investigations on ajax vs Olivier investigations with dojo, just leave them perform tests and time will decide what works better. > Carsten Wolff wrote: >> Hi. >> >> My vote is: NULL >> (because either choice makes me sad) >> >> I only read egroupware-core. Maybe that's the reason why all this sounds so >> familiar to me. Once again I'm thinking "What the hell is going on? Why is >> everybody so unreasonable?" and once again I have the feeling, that more >> things happened behind the scenes, than a reader of this list gets. >> >> I'm tired of the fights in this project, that result in either forks or loss >> of manpower, a ressource, eGW is short of anyway. I know I'm not the biggest >> contributor and my word may not weigh very much, but I hope, everyone will >> recognize that this is a free software project. If you want to try changing >> big parts of the code and rewrite the UI, just open a branch in svn. Call it >> make_it_cool or whatever and hack away. Don't register Domains named after >> the next major version for a proof of concept and on the other hand don't >> bash people who want to experiment on new ways of doing things. Be nice to >> each other, make compromise and in the end, if you can not decide on a >> technology to use together, let the users decide over time which approach >> will be ultimately more successful. - -- |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://counter.li.org info: Linux user: 92390 - Linux machine: 39301 | | Oscar Manuel Gómez Senovilla - omgsATescomposlinux.org | | GPG Key at http://pgp.escomposlinux.org | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHYbmmQpr3kykd/aQRAj98AJ0eNgMV1XllnhjACo2GidYf7HISlgCfYdPr ++2XMkxYc1125rjUk+AU0gI= =cqsO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace _______________________________________________ eGroupWare-core mailing list eGroupWare-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-core
