Hello Carsten,

full ACK. Thanx for sharing your thoughts.

Bye
Christian


Carsten Wolff-2 wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> what I get from the postings here is, that people are angry with Lars,
> because 
> he effectively stopped working on eGW 1.x, after being one of the big
> forces 
> behind the eGW development, which leaves some important code unmaintained. 
> Most of the other criticisms seem to be rooted somewhere near that fact.
> 
> I can understand those feelings from an emotional point of view, but not 
> really from the concepts of the GPL.
> 
> The agreement between the members of a FOSS project is basicly supplied by
> the 
> license of the code. The widely used license that eGW uses only
> guarantees, 
> that the receiver of a changed eGW has the right to receive the sourcecode
> as 
> well. This does not bind developers in any way as far as the nature of the 
> changes is concerned.
> 
> I see this in other projects every day. Developers sometimes vanish for a 
> thousand different reasons, or they shift their focus because of another 
> thousand reasons. This is normal. Basically a user or co-developer has no 
> right to demand anything else from any developer of GPL software than the 
> sourcecode of changed versions of the program. And not having the right to 
> demand something also means, you don't have the right to be angry at
> someone 
> who does not meet your demands. Of course it might create a problem for
> you 
> that you're stuck with unmaintained code, but that's just it. This can
> happen 
> and that's clear from the start.
> 
> This leads me to the conclusion, the only question regarding the current 
> situation in eGW is this: Will benefits come for both sides from
> developing 
> Tine within egroupware.org, or not?
> 
> [My personal answer: Absolutely. Compatibility between the two is an
> important 
> advantage for both and will not happen, if the devs don't use the same
> tools 
> and communication channels. Also, nobody who ever debugged eGW can deny
> that 
> it's suffering from its' legacy. So in the best case, if Tine really
> manages 
> to be a completely compatible rewrite of eGW written with clean coding 
> concepts, it would be like a lottery win. And in the worst case, if Tine
> will 
> be a failure, eGW lost manpower for half a year or so.]
> 
> Basically my advice is to find back to cooperation to the extend, which is 
> technically possible. For the supporters of eGW 1.x, this means to accept
> the 
> fact, that maybe there will come a time when much of their code will be 
> replaced. For the Tine people this means to accept working on the same 
> platform as a person, they don't like personally (but this really should
> be 
> possible, that's the case in any environment with many people in it).
> 
> Carsten
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