On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:38 PM David Tellenbach <
[email protected]> wrote:

> If we go with gitlab, then we have the choice of the gitlab instance, e.g.:
>  - gitlab.com with gold feature for free
>  - gitlab.inria.fr (it is running the community edition)
>
>
> I have no personal objectives against the Inria gitlab instance. However
> some arguments pro gitlab.com:
> - Addressing your pro github argument: People are less likely to have a
> gitlab.com account than a github.com account but far more likely to have
> a gitlab.com account than a gitlab.inria.fr account. gitlab.com would
> therefore be some kind of compromise between these three alternatives
>

and gitlab.com allows you to login using your bitbucket or github account.


> - gold should have way more features than the community edition but this
> is something we could check if necessary
>

yes, the community edition is lacking some welcome features, like:
 - explicit relationships across issues,
 - multiple approvers in code review
 - reorder Issues in Issue Board List
 - push rules


> Do you see reasons to choose gitlab.inria.fr beside the existence of an
> gitlab.inria.fr/eigen?
>

gitlab.com/eigen is already taken by someone else (same for github) and
gitlab.com is kind of slow, but those are minor compared to the advantages
of the gitlab.com instance.

gael

Thanks,
> David
>
> On 5. Sep 2019, at 16:57, Gael Guennebaud <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> let's try to get a consensus on a few decisions.
>
> Proposition 1:
>
> Let's take this opportunity to migrate:
>  - code hosting (currently hg/bitbucket),
>  - bug tracker (currently bugzilla/self-hosted),
>  - pull/merge requests (currently bitbucket),
>  - code review (currently a mix of bugzilla/bitbucket),
>  - continuous integration (currently a mix of cron job, gitlab runners,
> etc. without ability to test PR)
> to a *single* and *stable* "tool" hosted and maintained by a reliable
> third-party.
> Here "tool" is either github or gitlab, and thus we also have to switch
> from hg to git.
>
> -> Do we agree on this proposition?
>
> If YES, then all it remains to do is to choose between github or gitlab
> (and then hack some migration scripts!).
>
> github main pro:
>  - most users/contributors already have an account
>
> gitlab main pros:
>  - more freedom/independence
>  - gitlab CI rocks:
>    - this make it a real all-in-one solution
>    - thanks to gitlab-runners anybody can easily share computing
> resources. I can myself dedicate two very powerful machines without VM
> overhead compiling Eigen's unit tests within a few minutes. That's a key
> feature if we want to automatically test PRs.
>    - part of the work is already done (e.g., gitlab-runners, bugzilla to
> gitlab)
>
> gitlab main cons:
>  - the search engine for issues does not search within the comments yet.
> This is a very serious limitation, hopefully it'll be resolved soon, but
> the current patch proposal is exhibiting very serious performance issues
> with no clear solution:
> https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/merge_requests/24458
>
> You can have a look at an initial attempt of migration of our bugzilla to
> gitlab there:
> https://gitlab.inria.fr/guenneba/eigen-bzmigration-test2/issues
> Bug's ID are preserved, and it's only missing hash/link conversions from
> hg/bitbucket to whatever we switch for code hosting.
> The migration script should not be too difficult to adapt to github if
> github ends up as the winner.
>
> If we go with gitlab, then we have the choice of the gitlab instance, e.g.:
>  - gitlab.com with gold feature for free
>  - gitlab.inria.fr (it is running the community edition)
>
> Gael
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:54 PM Christoph Hertzberg <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Eigen users and contributers!
>>
>> As some may have noticed, bitbucket/atlassian is "sunsetting" its
>> mercurial support:
>>
>> https://bitbucket.org/blog/sunsetting-mercurial-support-in-bitbucket
>>
>> If they stick to their timeline, we will have to migrate until June 1st,
>> 2020. That means we still have time, but if we do nothing, things will
>> break ...
>>
>>
>> Converting the repository itself to git should not be a bigger issue --
>> and if we do this we could as well migrate to a more mainstream provider
>> (i.e., github).
>>
>> I think the main problems for migration are:
>>   a) Migrating open pull-requests (for historical reasons, the
>> closed/merged ones should probably be archived as well)
>>   b) Fixing internal links inside commit messages ("grafted from ...",
>> "fixes error introduced in commit ...")
>>   c) Fixing external links to the repository. Most notably, any links
>> from our bugtracker will eventually fail (even if we stayed with
>> bitbucket, the hashes won't match). I doubt that we could set up any
>> automatic forwarding for that.
>>   d) Any third-party which relies on our main repository will need to
>> change as well (not directly "our" problem, but we need to give a
>> reasonable amount of time for everyone to migrate to whatever will be
>> our future official repository).
>>
>> Smaller issues (relatively easy to fix or not as important):
>>   e) Change links from our wiki (to downloads)
>>   f) Change URLs for automated doxygen generation and for unit-tests
>>   g) Automatic links from the repository to our bugtracker (currently
>> "Bug X" automatically links to
>> http://eigen.tuxfamily.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=X)
>>   h) Change hashes in bench/perf_monitoring/changesets.txt
>>
>> I probably missed a few things ...
>>
>>
>> I see essentially three options:
>>   1. Migrate to another mercurial provider
>>   2. Convert to git, stay at bitbucket
>>   3. Convert to git, migrate to another provider
>>
>> Honestly, I see no good reason for option 2. And the only real reason I
>> see for option 1 would be that it safes a lot of hassle with b) and h)
>> -- also perhaps it would simplify c) (e.g., we could easily crawl
>> through our bugzilla-database and just replace some URLs).
>>
>>
>> Any opinions on this? Preferences for how to proceed, or other
>> alternatives?
>> Does anyone have experience with migrating from hg to git? Or migrating
>> between providers? Especially, also dealing with the issues listed above.
>> Does anyone see issues I forgot?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Christoph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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