Hi all,

I was David's supervisor for the GSOC project. I just found a local copy of
the code at CERN, which I have placed here:
https://cernbox.cern.ch/index.php/s/SdtmgAsXasc9ttK
in particular HermitianMatrix.h and HermitianBase.h
Best of luck!

Cheers,
Stewart


On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 15:11, Jens Wehner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello David,
>
> any luck with the hermitian matrices?
>
> Cheers Jens
>
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> *From:* Rasmus Munk Larsen <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 22:12
> *To:* eigen <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [eigen] Hermitian matrices
>
> Sorry, David :-( I hope you find it!
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 2:37 PM David Tellenbach <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Jens,
>
> Unfortunately I couldn't find it locally anymore and Bitbucket's Mercurial
> repos aren't accessible anymore. There should be a copy somewhere (probably
> Gaƫl has one in the pull request archive), I'll look around.
>
> David
>
> On 8. Oct 2020, at 23:11, Jens Wehner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hey David,
>
> have you found the code?
>
> I like the Hermitian matrix for the memory saving and for very nicely
> expressing physics in the datatype. I think the idea was to put it into the
> unsupported.
>
> Cheers Jens
>
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> *From:* David Tellenbach <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 6, 2020 20:36
> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [eigen] Hermitian matrices
>
> @Rasmus, here are some benchmarks:
> https://listengine.tuxfamily.org/lists.tuxfamily.org/eigen/2018/08/msg00010.html
>  (scroll
> the the very end). As already said, Hermitian * Hermitian can give quite
> good performance and Dense * Hermitian doesn't really hurt.
>
> On 6. Oct 2020, at 02:26, David Tellenbach <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> IIRC it was in fact you who suggested using not a plain packed but a
> rectangular full packed format ;-) (
> https://software.intel.com/content/www/us/en/develop/documentation/mkl-developer-reference-c/top/lapack-routines/matrix-storage-schemes-for-lapack-routines.html#matrix-storage-schemes-for-lapack-routines_RFP_STORAGE)
>
>
> If this is worth definitely depends on the particular use-case. It has
> been shown that a rectangular full packed format can be beneficial for e.g.
> Cholesky (http://www.netlib.org/lapack/lawnspdf/lawn199.pdf
> <http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.214.102&rep=rep1&type=pdf>)
> or Pade approximations (
> https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/86d2/28da4fc02672b2c990eb48a5a605c0e0360f.pdf).
> I published benchmark on this list and will try to dig them out. A
> Hermitian*Hermitian product can be quite fast (you can basically fall back
> to gemm for blocks in the RFP format) but Dense*Hermitian was not so good
> if I remember correctly.
>
> David
>
> On 6. Oct 2020, at 02:16, Rasmus Munk Larsen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I can see that this might save 50% of memory by only storing the upper or
> lower triangle, and it would be nice to be able to automatically dispatch
> to faster eigensolvers etc. for Hermitian matrices. However, packed storage
> kernels are notoriously hard to optimize, and I wonder how much we would
> gain over the existing mechanism like SelfAdjointView?
>
> https://eigen.tuxfamily.org/dox/classEigen_1_1SelfAdjointView.html\
> <https://eigen.tuxfamily.org/dox/classEigen_1_1SelfAdjointView.html/>
>
> Do you have some benchmark numbers for your patch?
>
> Rasmus
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 5:07 PM David Tellenbach <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Jens,
>
> It would be great if you could finish this! I just saw that the patch is
> not accessible anymore, I'll see if I can find it.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On 4. Oct 2020, at 21:27, Jens Wehner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks David,
>
> I would probably like to give it a shot to brush up on my template
> programming skills or lack thereof.
>
> Do you have the code somewhere public so I can have a look? If you have
> time afterwards we can have a chat about the better implementation.
>
> Cheers Jens
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> *From:* David Tellenbach <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 4, 2020 0:16
> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [eigen] Hermitian matrices
>
> Hi Jens,
>
> Yes, I've implemented support for Hermitian matrices as a Google Summer of
> Code student in 2018 and finishing it is still somewhere on my backlog.
> However, with today's knowledge the implementation should look quite
> differently. If you are interested to work on this I'm happy to discuss.
> Otherwise you will have to wait until I find some time to reimplement it.
> This won't take me too long but without committing to anything, I can
> already say that I won't find time before the beginning of 2021.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On 2. Oct 2020, at 23:30, Jens Wehner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I recently discovered that David Tellenbach started/was in the
> middle/finished a
>
> Hermitian matrix class.
> http://manao.inria.fr/eigen_tmp/pullrequests/467/
> I wanted to know what the status is and if any help is needed to push that
> along.
>
> Cheers Jens
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