Your summary is essentially correct (except I never
found JBuilder 3.0 to be unstable, just a memory hog).
Oracle Tech support indicated to me that they have
totally split from the Inprise code base, so JBuilder
and JDeveloper are now (allegedly) on two totally
seperate paths.
As far as what is different, this is not an exhaustive
list, but a tream of consciousness of what jumped out
at me:
1. Different project management concept. JDeveloper
has the idea of a workspace that contains many
projects (which contain source files). Also, the
buttons look like the Forms buttons.
2. Slightly different Tool set.
3. Largely different deployment tools (no more the
simple JAR wizard). The JDeveloper deployment tools
have been ramped up to cater to developers building
and deploying Java components to the Oracle 8i server
such as Stored Procedures, Session Beans and some sort
of new/alternate server side architecture ( the name
escapes me, but I think it is BC4O or Business
Components for Oracle). Also, the ability to configure
different deployment processes and store them for
later recall was a great enhancement.
4. The GUI components are basically the same except
that JBCL is out and some data aware Swing components
from Oracle are in.
5. There are some additional Oracle Connection
management facilities. You can define connections,
store them and implement them in your code so you do
not have to rewrite all that connection code over
again.
6. Much expanded wizards for all sorts of things. The
data aware wizard for servlets is really quite nice,
but seems to revolve around the same concept of one
Master Detail relationship of two tables.
7. Some menu based resources inexplicably changed
location but not features.
8. Everyhting has a slightly changed look and feel.
There are some soft changes that I think may have been
done in attemp to make established Oracle developers
feel at home.
As far as my own personal opinion about the product,
if you are building and deploying Java objects to
Oracle 8i or Oracle Application Server, I recommend it
highly. Otherwise....... what's the point ?
//Nicholas
--- James Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't have an opinion on JDeveloper, but I do have
> a question.
>
> JDeveloper has evolved from code that Oracle
> licensed from Inprise, namely
> JBuilder. I don't believe that JDeveloper has sprung
> from the latest (past year
> or so) all-Java technology that Inprise has switched
> to. Specifically, I
> understand that JDeveloper is a slightly customized
> version of JBuilder 3.0 (a
> windows-only technology). I don't consider a
> Windows-only development tool to be
> a problem, so I don't have any biases in that
> direction.
>
> My question is, what has Oracle added to the product
> to make it more attractive
> than Inprise JBuilder. I have many memories of
> JBuilder 3.0 being very unstable
> due to its hybrid native/Java implementation. The
> latest versions are pure-Java
> and infinitely more enjoyable to use. (I ack that
> there are some who prefer the
> speed of the native version, but I'll take the
> stability.)
>
> Just curious what Oracle has added to the product to
> make it even worth
> considering?
>
> jim
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Oracle JDeveloper experiences
>
>
> > We are evaluating JDeveloper for developing JSPs.
> We are using Oracle 8.1.5
> > and we can view JSP's source code, but can't
> debug. It seems that we will
> > need to upgrade to 8.1.6 in order to do this, but
> it does look like it's
> > possible. Specifically, the failure is because
> JDeveloper is looking for
> > procedures in the DBMS_JAVA package that are not
> present in the 8.1.5
> > version.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sachin Mallapurkar
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:03 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Oracle JDeveloper experiences
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Could anyone please share their experiences with
> the Oracle JDeveloper
> > product?
> >
> > >From what I have read, it seems that version 3.1
> of Oracle JDeveloper
> > allows visual development for JSPs and EJBs. My
> project will involve
> > development with JSPs and EJBs.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Sachin
> >
> >
>
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