> Those who are officially certified can NOT offer this as an option,
toggled or not

Good thing I'm not officially certified!  To me, this is akin to imposing
gag rules for doctors in presenting birth-control alternatives!  ;-)

Gene

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I think you're misunderstanding. Those who are officially certified can NOT
offer this as an option, toggled or not. It cannot be anywhere in the
server, and users should know that. Please understand there is a difference
between spec compliance and official CTS compliance. CTS compliance
completely forbids alternate configurations in the server core, even as
optional possibilities.

psn

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Sean Neville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>No server that has sucessfully passed CTS 1.2 -- official certification
>based on that suite of 6,000+ tests, not certification based on subjective
>interpretation of adherence to the specs -- can make use of
>passing objects by reference. This optimization is strictly disallowed,
> >not a permissable value-add. That's not to say it isn't valuable, and
> >non-compliant servers do have an advantage there. It's just to say that
> >if you're using a certified app server, don't expect this local
> >optimization.

While this is true, many (if not all) vendors that do offer this feature
make it an option that can be toggled. Furthermore if these vendors choose
the default value of this switch to be "pass by value", I think they're
kidding themselves and their technical support as well as newsgroups will
testify to that. Same goes for the "threads and I/O not allowed" rule. The
bottom line is that when I am recommending an application server to the
client, I will always choose one that offers these optimizations and relaxes
spec restrictions, what with paranoid spec writers and all.

Cheers,

Alex Smith
Insight LLC
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