Johan, are you a friend of Zahid Raman?

Cheers,


                                Sacha

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de Johan Eltes
> Envoy� : mercredi, 17 avril 2002 06:42
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> Objet : Re: 3rd normal form & EJB
> 
> 
> My interpretation was that an applet container may not depend on 
> any classes
> of the ejb.* package, including EJBObject and EJBHome, which I suppose,
> would make it invalid to reference home- and remote interfaces since these
> extend EJBObject and EJBHome?
> 
> /Johan
> 
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Bresnahan
> Sent: den 17 april 2002 04:40
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 3rd normal form & EJB
> 
> If I understand what you are asking, my recommendation to you is to not
> reimplement your data model in your application server.  Your 
> data model has
> already been done for you in Oracle and you are not likely to 
> improve on it.
> Instead of modeling your data with EJBs, concentrate on modeling your
> application behavior.  Object-orientation is a software design paradigm
> tuned for application design, not data modeling.
> 
> Mike Bresnahan
> 
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mindaugas Kairys
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:59 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: 3rd normal form & EJB
> >
> >
> >    Hello,
> > I have such philosophical, but real problem. My Oracle admin 
> asks me, why
> > are you using such plane database design, what will you do, when it will
> > come the need for new object attributes: alter tables, change
> > program code,
> > stop server....?
> >
> > I'd wanted to hear opinions, suggestions, the ways you solve 
> that problem
> > from you and ask what tools, tips, patterns one should use to archieve
> > database design of 3rd normal form normalization level using EJB? I know
> > that CMP entity EJB will be solution to achieve that, but it
> > takes too much
> > time. Mhm...
> >
> > Mindaugas Kairys
> >
> 
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