Bruce Cohen
"Auer, Craig" wrote:
I have imported Java code into TogetherJ before. The application features round-trip engineering.
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Subject: Re: Creating EJB's from UMLI played with a Together/J eval for a couple of weeks, and found (at least for me) that it had one major weakness relative to Rational Rose: it cannot import existing Java code. Since we have a rather large base of Java packages that were not developed using Together, this was a showstopper for me.
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"Writing a new object-oriented program sometimes feels a bit like
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Bruce Cohen, | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GemStone Systems, Inc. | phone: (503)533-3602
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Chris Raber wrote:
Rickard,
I don't the the details, but according to my customers TJ is not as
comprehensive of a design tool as Rational. That doesn't mean it isn't good,
just focused on a different sweet spot. Rational is more complete on the
analysis model side of things in my undertanding. But for detailed design
and simultaneous code/UML work, TJ rocks!-Chris.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rickard Öberg [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 5:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Creating EJB's from UML
>
> Hey
>
> Just some details on TJ.
>
> Chris Raber wrote:
> > Given that EJB interfaces and such are simply java interfaces, I would
> think
> > any UML tool with forward engineering could be used to gen the
> equivelant
> > Java sources. Have you looked at Together J? I have not used it but here
> > good things from my customers. Apparently you can toggle between code
> and
> > UML and the two are always synched (no forward or reverse engineering).
>
> No, not toggle: you see UML and code simultaneously. Change in UML gives
> immediate changes in code (UML stuff is stored as JavaDoc comments in
> source), and changes in code are seen in the UML view. Really cool. This
> is why they're always synched: there's nothing to sync! :-) The two
> (UML<->source) are one.
>
> > It
> > is not the full UML tool that Rational is, but from a
> designer/developers
> > view might be the right mix.
>
> I don't want to have a flame war here, but if you haven't used TJ, how
> do you know TJ3 is not a full UML tool? It has support for all diagram
> types (AFAIK) and very good documentation generation and so on, so I do
> think it's a rather complete UML tool.
>
> regards,
> Rickard
>
> --
> Rickard Öberg
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