Jeff said:
> P.S. I DON'T work for Gemstone, just like their product
> a lot.
Come on Frank, you went to Gemstone's intensive bootcamp for what, a
week or
two?
<vendor>
For the record, our bootcamp event is a training session attended by both
GemStone field personal and customer/partners. There is nothing untoward
about anyone's participation. It is a one week event we hold periodically.
Also our intro and admin classes are about a week in duration each. Most
custmomers at least have a team member or two attend.
</vendor>
-Chris.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Martin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 10:58 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: EJB Server Comparison (WebLogic, WebSphere,
> NetDynamics,GemSt one)
>
> Frank Sauer wrote:
> > I've been following this from the initial announcement now
> > and the first things that came to my mind were:
> >
> > 1) this test is for EJB1.0 and the tested Gemstone is more
> > EJB 1.1 than 1.0
>
> Unsure on this one.
>
> > 2) The tested Gemstone version (3.0) is an older one,
> > 3.1 was a measurable improvement
>
> I don't fault them on testing the latest version they could obtain at the
> time. If they tried to retest every version, service pack, and bug fix for
> all five EJB vendors, they would have never been able to publish. Perhaps
> a
> follow up of some kind would be best.
>
> > 3) You don't run a Gemstone server on that kind of hardware
>
> While their choice of hardware might have artificially limited an EJB
> server
> (possible), they ran all of the EJB servers on the same hardware. I think
> the tests would have been very similar (or identical) to each other if
> bigger hardware were used for all.
>
> > As far as out of the box performance vs. the magical
> > installation goes, there are a few VERY SIMPLE
> > parameters that you can tune to get going, but don't
> > forget that Gemstone's PCA is a complex product that
> > deserves the same kind of respect as say Oracle 8i
> > when tuning. They have an excellent administration
> > and tuning course available that when taken by a
> > team of competent engineers will allow them to achieve
> > that magical setup themselves, without a lot of help
> > from the product engineers.
>
> That's definitely a plus for Gemstone.
>
> > Frank Sauer
> >
> > P.S. I DON'T work for Gemstone, just like their product
> > a lot.
>
> Come on Frank, you went to Gemstone's intensive bootcamp for what, a week
> or
> two?
>
> Oh, and Frank, if you are gonna reply to me, at least CC me. I sit all of
> 75
> feet from you. Stop by if you want to continue the discussion, as I think
> everyone else has tired of it.
>
> Jeff
>
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