Note: Marketing stuff below. Not directly EJB-related. Hit delete if you're not interested. <vendor> On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:47:50 -0700, Freeman Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There is nothing stopping someone from downloading and reusing your intellectual >property in some form. You just can't stop all forms of infringement. I don't >blame the companies as much as the programmers and consultants working for the >companies. It's not possible to control the developers in most cases and the >pressure to get things to market creates and environment that heats up the pot. Not quite with you here. We at jBoss actually want you to download and reuse our intellectual property. Heck, even sell it if you want (Now, if someone actually buys it is another matter since it's freely available). As long as you abide by the GPL license (i.e. any modifications must be brought back to the jBoss community), we're happy. If you make a CD and sell jBoss, fine. If you make an EJB app and bundle jBoss with it, fine. If you start an ASP hosting service using jBoss (which Telkel will do), fine. Whatever. We would be happy if you do this. Of course we would be *thrilled* if you not only use the software, but also start making modifications to it, which are then integrated with the server. And this is what's happening right now: because of the modular architecture (a la Linux 2.0) we have many subprojects starting up to develop various plugins for jBoss. I just got 2 different SOAP plugins submitted to me for example, allowing SOAP calls to be handled by EJB's. >Sounds great. I've heard of EJBOSS and supported it when you guys first came out >but the real question is are you making money off of this? I can't comment on the details here just yet. There will be official announcements soon. But yes, we will make lots of money. I wouldn't be here otherwise. > Has it improved >revenue. If you can show this to people like myself I would gladly go open source >but the list of GPL companies that go bankrupt out-weight the VA-Linuxes. It's because they don't have a solid business plan. You need to understand OpenSource in order to make a good business plan around it. And that's hard to do, since not that many are doing it just yet. Our edge is that we started as OpenSource, and not the other way round. We eat OpenSource concepts for lunch. We attack it from techological, philosophical and business point of views, and now have a very good idea about what the beast looks like. Now we will domesticate it :-) >> So, while we at Telkel pioneered this thing, it has now grown way beyond >> just us. It is a fullblown community, and will continue to grow as we >> step up and parallelize the development. > >What do Telkel investors have to say? I can't comment on that :-) But they're very enthusiastic :-) (fun detail: we actually had BEA people at J1 asking us if they could invest... no names..) >Just want to know if it's profitable. If you've got a good business plan, yes. regards, Rickard </vendor> ps. All: terribly sorry for the marketing speak. Freeman, if you have more Q's, send them to me directly. -- Rickard �berg @home: +46 13 177937 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.telkel.com http://www.jboss.org http://www.dreambean.com =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff EJB-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
