I have a couple of domains that we could use for this effort.

ejbdev.com
ejbdirectory.com

I will host it on my machine with jsp's, apache on linux.  Anyone want to
help?

Phillip


-----Original Message-----
From: sandeep [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 9:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Betreft: need EJB ecommerce components


People on the list,

Hey, what's say we pool together a list of EJB-based application and
component frameworks available today. With some emphasis on open-source
stuff, if possible. I doubt there's any really good free stuff out there
anyway though. Sigh. What's Gnu? ;-)

>>The IBM components are general in nature and are hardly the best
>>performaning.  Also they don't work particularly well with other
application
>>servers.  The components from Diamelle Technologies and Evergreen are
better
>>peformaning.

Hmm,

I dunno. Performance comparisons are not so easy. There're so many factors
- the hardware, the dbms, the database design, clustering details,
application architecture etc. that have to be standardized on before you can
make any real performance comparisons.

IBM really went overboard with performance optimizations on some of the
Websphere components. There were some real good research publications on
this topic for e.g. in IBM System Journal Vol 39, No 1 -
http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/sj39-1.html.
That issue contained a lot of other good papers too. Most of them are worth
checking out - pretty techy stuff, but makes for great reading. All on Java
performance and optimization!

And I do not have to tell you that IBM probably knows more about Java
performance optimization that anyone else on the planet. They've been
pouring in a lot of moolah into this. For all you know, there's been more
money spent within IBM on Java performance research than most of the world
put together. But I don't have any hard facts (except for IBM JDK
performance stats) so I'll stop rambling.

Anyway, its not really relevant here.
BTW, thanksalot for pointing out Diamelle. I knew about Evergreen and
ECential, but I'd never heard of Diamelle.

For the rest of the crowd out there, Diamelle's at
http://www.diamelletechnologies.com/.
Evergreen is, of course, at http://www.evergreen.com. They received quite
some coverage in Sun' press releases not too long ago.

Sandeep Dath

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --
Arthur C. Clarke




>From: sandeep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Betreft: need EJB ecommerce components
>Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:13:13 +0530
>
>Hi,
>
>I don't know if this will *REALLY* help you, but I suggest that you check
>out IBM SanFransisco and the WebSphere Business Components. IBM spent 3-4
>years of research in collaboration with some of the other big-wigs and
>software vendors in the industry before some of this even came out of the
>research stage.
>
>Essentially, SanFransico provides horizontal frameworks for e-business(and
>more) application development. There are a couple of vertical frameworks
>too, for resuable business components that can be ususally factored out of
>most applications.
>
>Actually its the Websphere Business Components (of which Sanfransisco is
>just a part), which is the bigger picture.
>You can check out IBM WebSphere Business Components at
>http://www-4.ibm.com/software/webservers/components/
>
>There's been a lot of raving and ranting about all this. Its been in and
>out
>of the press for quite some time now.
>Mind you, I'm not *recommending* WBCs (or Websphere for that matter), I'm
>just pointing a digital finger in its general direction.
>
>And while some of it is EJB-based, I don't think ALL of it is though. I
>also
>don't  know if the whole things' been hardwired into the Websphere
>platform.
>Heck IBM's no open-source angel. :-)
>
>Sandeep Dath
>
>"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --
>Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: A mailing list for Enterprise JavaBeans development [mailto:A
>mailing list for Enterprise JavaBeans development]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 1:58 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Betreft: need EJB ecommerce components
>
>
>I would like to join in with this question.
>
>We're looking for off-the-shelf components for the insurance business which
>we
>can use in our own applications and that can be deployed in any EJB
>container.
>Any suggestions where to search? Any experiences?
>TIA.
>
>
>

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