> >>I find it disturbing that a lot of people who BARELY
> understand Java try
> to write
> >> EJB's and use app servers; I find this notion ridiculous!
>
> How do you propose we learn how to do this?
>
> >>EJB and app
> >>servers is NOT for beginning Java programmers. Sure a lot
> of vendors try
> to
> >>advertise otherwise (the bottom line is to sell as many
> units as possible,
> >>right? :-)) by having snazzy GUI bean designers and
> deployers, but I
> think
> >>EJB is a technology that suited for intermediate to
> advanced developers...
> >>hence that's why we're paid the big bucks, right? <<
>
> I think the big bucks have gone to your head!
This set statements has resonated a chord in my brain cells
too.
I feel for the guy who's bucks have gone to his head! I'm also
concerned that this elist is going the same way as the
Advanced Java elist... clutered with book phobic newbies
emailing questions that are easily answered if they'd just
read any of the java or EJB books.
Who out there is still on the Advanced Java list? Nobody here
I bet. This list is the replacement I'm afraid.
The part about actually deploying a commercial EJB app by
an expert. I agree with that too. Pitty the site who was
deployed on a single instance of an NT server. No clustering
or fail over designed into the EJB application business logic,
appserver vendor, or hardware.
If you're on the hiring side, or contracting side of developing
your company's eSite, I'd suggest you determine your needs for
resiliency, down time tolerance, capacity and future scalability
needs are. Then ask those who'll be doing the work about their
creditials and past successes at architecting and developing
systems that meet your needs. If you accept less, be prepared
for the worst to happen (often).
In the mean time, there's so much work out there, I don't feel
this is at all limiting the newbies. I'm only suggesting that
an apprenticeship is appropriate for architecting a modern eSite.
Fault tolerance, and the harder 24x7 non-stop demands are tough!!!!
curt
Curt Smith
Architect at Z-Tel
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