I thought the relationship between JDO and EJB was not competitive but
cooperative. From the JDO .8 draft, sec. 1.1 -

"There are two major objectives of the JDO architecture: first, to enable
pluggable imple-mentations of data stores into application servers; and
second, to provide application programmers a Java-centric view of persistent
information, including enterprise data and locally stored data."


>From: James Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: Entity beans vs DAO(Data Access Objects)
>Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:11:08 -0500
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Geert Mergan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > - can anyone give me one or more good reasons to go for entity beans?
>They
> > seem like a bad solution from everything I read so far in various
>resources
> > on the net..
>
>There seem to be many people on this mailing list that have problems with
>entity
>beans, but most often they don't seem to have any real evidence. It is more
>like
>an urban myth. :)
>
>I think Entity beans are a good mechanism to represent a persistent
>business
>object. Many of the "problems" that developers have with entity beans
>center
>around things like concurrency control and the complexity of coding
>course-grained beans. Unless you are using an EJB 2.0 (maybe it won't be
>until
>3.0 until this is actually made easier)  implementation or some complicated
>framework (TopLink), this will always be a complicated task.
>
> > - If I understand well, Sun's JDO spec has not yet been implemented so
>while
> > waiting for such an implementation, do you think Castor's JDO is a good
> > alternative + why (not) , eg. does it follow part of the Sun JDO spec?
>
>Perhaps you have looked at JDO and can enlighten me. What will JDO get you
>that
>CMP doesn't already offer? I view JDO as a declarative persistence
>framework.
>The same challenges face the developer that uses JDO as the developer that
>uses
>Entity Beans. JDO seems like a good alternative for persisting objects
>*outside*
>of the EJB framework, but if you know you will be using EJBs, why bother?
>
>jim
>
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