comments from a guy who hasn't used one but would like to:

>From what I've read people who use object dbs love it (maybe the ones who
don't like it aren't saying anything...) but the the major things I would
say have prevented us from using versant or the likes are:

* clients don't want anything but oracle/sql server bc they already got it
and it's hard to "go wrong with it"
* integration with 3rd party tools that talk to oracle et al only...versant
et al have java apis and probably adapters for jdbc/sql but it's probably
not officially supported by the product u need to integrate with...

--
Tinou Bao
www.tinou.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Winston Gnananayagam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:45 PM
Subject: [EJB-INT] Offtopic: Experiences with ODBMS...


> Hi all,
>           Can anybody share their experiences in deploying a design
solution
> that involves an ODBMS. Are there any major pitfalls in using a ODBMS to
> persist your objects as opposed to using a relational database. I'm not
> trying to completely avoid a relational database, but I need a odbms that
> could co-exist with a rdbms and take care of persisting my objects.
>             I'm right now evaluating some ODBMS products, which will
provide
> simple means for storage and fast retrieval of my objects in a
distributed,
> multi-user environment. Support for retrieving data using complex queries
is
> an absolute necessity.
>             My goal is to avoid all the middleware components(O-R Tools)
> that's needed to keep my objects persistent. Hopefully, I'd also avoid
> further bloat of my application without any use of Entity Beans. I'm sure
my
> application would end up with 40% less code. I've been also hearing that
in
> certain cases the applications using odbms products are 10 times faster
than
> the ones using rdbms. Seems like the cost benefits of using an ODBMS
product
> is extremely good as they are a lot cheaper than the existing RDBMS
> products.
>           Anyway, my bottom line is, I'm looking for a solution to persist
> my objects and retrieve them fast. I don't need anything fancy at all that
> today's RDBMS products provide. Any pointers/tips/warnings from architects
&
> developers will help me out a lot.
> Winston.
>
>
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