Dear Moderator ,

It's bad feeling to see such mails on the list. I would recommend not be
receiving such bitter mails on a novel mailing list like ours.  Why oh why
in a list server people should talk about racism( all the Canadian
references and the Indian references were unncessary). This kind of
nuissance has been encountered by us at an earlier occation also .
 I wonder !!!! ..How insane??!!!! . Please take necessary action.  Lets
just talk EJB.( I am sorry I couldn't help mailing this one)

regards
vinodh





Zahid Rahman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@JAVA.SUN.COM> on 01/05/2001
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Dear All,

For those of you still unaware about the program I  posted on websphere
and I know a lot of you are because you made that  known by
criticising my program.

>From my point of view it was a "noddy" piece of  code which
I wrote for a  situation before I logged on EJBs.

I was confident that my logic was correct and  problems
existed some where else. I did not change  anything
in the program because I was that confident and  wanted it
to be looked at "as is" by those in whose domain  those issues
belonged.

I heard about the hardware bug about six years ago  and have come across
hardware problems not just in PCs but also in  Mainframes.

I also read about the init method although the  solution did not make sense
and also�about dynamic class loading and how  it was treated in different
JVMs.
Read but not tried out personally  myself.

I came to find out the answers in that program and  also the
classDefNotFoundError not ClassDefNotException. Answer
which cannot be found in one place.

Ioin Woods who specialises in�JVMs confirmed  that different JVMs
behave in a different ways.

He also informed me that an expert group is looking  at the
intermittent problem  which I believe has turned out to be a
hardware problem as I suspected and he had some  knowledge of as well.
I have come across intermittent problem before and
know something about the cause.

I was asked by a company called thinkspark if I  knew about dynamic
class loading and I  denied it because from his point of view if I know
I am bright and if I don't know I am not.  "Friendly" was also in a book
so I suggest he tackles the book. I also refer  thinkspark to the answer
given to
me by Ioin Woods that hardware is out of his domain  so why
does thinkspark think it is in mine domain I am at  a loss to understand.
Confused between remove and remove as well.  I�replied to Mr. Ioin Woods
I will use what he wrote as a reference by this I  also meant I know how to
program and I will use him as a reference not what  many of you say.

The list administrator looking at my program said I  should apologise
for the sake of creditability�which was  actually to my advantage
in two ways�so he should look for  credibility.

I asked for client code also for two reasons , one  to find out
if it was a support line but it wasn't.
I don't use products who have public lines such as  those
furthermore as I knew the Indians want to prove  themselves
to be better than us for commercial reasons  but
you proved other wise.

Products where they do not provide support I know  from
experience means they know about a fault in their  product
and I do not have to know about the details  although
I always like to find out.

Some Canadian idiot ( a few� days ago )  attacked me for my debugging
on the Forte line  which shows that he didn't know nothing about the
hardware
and have back fired on him. He was defending Dustin  Callaway's
Solution which was  wrong.
Somebody on this line wrote that I know the  concepts but
my Java isn't any good. Actually after having the  opinions
of the authority you�do not know the concepts  therefore
you programming can't be any good.�There is a  port scanner
at the back of that book.

I have to say that I have never come across so
much inaccurate information since looking at Java.

Object Oriented Programming Concepts were
the fashion about�six years ago for a short  while
but know they have come in  again.

The experts at JavaCard also looked at my  code
and said I should do that. It is good to�have  the real experts
recognising one's ability.


Being in the UK�I have access to a lot more  information
and accurate information and I think you will all  do well
to remember in the future.


Regards,
Zahid Rahman
Senior Consultant
BusinessObjects
Maidenhead UK.
World's Number 1 Established for ten  years.
We specialise in Data Warehousing which every  Management in every
company needs for steering their  business in the right direction.

P.S . Template is another term for a class as  well.
a very old term.

































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