>Whilst I've never been in this situation, I've heard many ppl say they've
>worked at places where thats exactly what happens - the
>DBA writes some PL/SQL, and the developer calls that.  Isn't that exactly
>what finders are trying to replace?

Don't know about you org but in mine there are public views and tables that
any developer or application can use.  Heck, a user can even use SQLPlus
(Oracle's interactive query utility) to issue any SQL to them.


>the same as BMP as I understand it.  THere's nothing to stop you writing
>your own finder method, all you need to do is return allt
>he primary keys found - rely on the container to do read-ahead optimization
>etc, and you have all the flexibility you need...

Could you elaborate further?  What EQL would you specify for the CMP
findByStatement?  Something like:

   select object(t) from myTable t where ?1

I don't think that will work.  You can only bind values not a part of
statement.


>From: Dmitri Colebatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Dmitri Colebatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: How many Finders to I need for a search enginer?
>Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 11:16:24 +1100
>
> > All these "solutions" would be like a DBA telling people that they can't
> > issue a query against database, but can only do query through
>pre-defined
> > database views.  Sorry, but this is ridiculous.
>
>Whilst I've never been in this situation, I've heard many ppl say they've
>worked at places where thats exactly what happens - the
>DBA writes some PL/SQL, and the developer calls that.  Isn't that exactly
>what finders are trying to replace?
>
> > What about the query statement?  Should that be in EQL?  Does EJB
>container
> > know how to map EQL to target DB during runtime?  If not EQL, wouldn't
>the
> > application be not portable?
>
>How would you do this in something other than EJB?  you'd basically have a
>way of constructing the SQL dynamically yes - like the
>findByStatement.
>
> > How would findByStatement work under CMP?
>
>the same as BMP as I understand it.  THere's nothing to stop you writing
>your own finder method, all you need to do is return allt
>he primary keys found - rely on the container to do read-ahead optimization
>etc, and you have all the flexibility you need...
>
>cheers
>dim
>
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