Robert,
I think the "(n/2)+1" formula should always work, and work reliably if 
applied to
discovery.zen.minimum_master_nodes
 
It's absolutely impossible to establish a quorum and elect a new leader if 
>50% of total nodes. When and if quorum is established, the conditions to 
elect a new leader in the remaining nodes can never exist (because would be 
less than 50%)
 
Yes, the consequence is that the cluster becomes inoperable, but that is 
the current result when a quorum is not achieved. Whether the cluster 
should become read-only instead of inoperable is an interesting idea.
 
IMO,
Tony
 
 

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:54:07 AM UTC-8, Robert Stupp wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 18. Februar 2014 11:24:34 UTC+1 schrieb Jörg Prante:
>>
>> With using the quorum of (n/2)+1 you are safe the cluster can always 
>> elect a single leader.
>>
> Hm.. not really. 3*2 nodes --- quorum=6/2+1=4 --- a 4 + 2 nodes "split 
> brain" is still possible.
> And ES stops working, if #nodes<minimum_master_nodes .
> It would be better to switch ES to a "read only" mode - maybe by 
> introducing a new configuration option similar to minimum_master_nodes.
>

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