Hi Tony,

Thank you for your response, reading this I'm pretty sure I'm going with
Yann's suggestion to simply backup & restore. Your first point confirms that
this is a good idea anyway.

To answer your second point, both clusters are on the same /24 subnet, the
problem is that oldcluster is not designed to do that, we put a production
site's index on a server with twenty-odd GB free space and 4GB RAM total, so
we *need* to move it to the dedicated cluster.

The other two points are great suggestions and thank you very much for them,
but I think the backup & restore way would be more suitable for my case.

Thank you very much,
Attila

On 02/19/2014 04:50 PM, Tony Su wrote:> Hi,
> My testing has done a little bit of what you're describing...
> - FWIW and I don't know why, when I re-insert the data from scratch
> instead of upgrading a cluster, I'm seeing substantial improvements in
> node general health. They seem faster, less latencies related to
> indexing (I assume there should be no diff searching, but ??). If a
> reason why I'm seeing this can't be found, then maybe what I'm seeing is
> specific to my setup and hardware.
> - I don't know that there should be any reason to name your cluster
> differently if the networks are completely isolated, but of course if
> there should be a mistake, the consequences could be serious.
> - I've been using various methods that display index activity, the
> easiest to use (and today work on both 0.90 and 1.0) are
> elasticsearch-head and elasticsearch-hq. I've also been toying around
> recently with simply probing each node using a curl command, which
> depending on how you deploy web tools likely has a lower load effect on
> resources (I'm currently running Apache on one node and when I use one
> or more of the above tools, has a significant and measurable load).
> - If you do an upgrade, at least the one time after the upgrade you may
> want to force your cluster to wait until all nodes in the cluster are
> active before restarting to minimize shard thrashing (if a node is not
> online yet, the cluster may discard the indices on that node and
> re-allocate from whatever copy already is active. Then, when the missing
> node finally joins, then the shards are re-balanced). One way to do that
> is setting the following to be the same as the total nodes in the cluster
> gateway.recovery_after_nodes
> HTH,
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:01:03 AM UTC-8, Attila Bukor wrote:
>
>     Hey everybody,
>
>     I have a question regarding the migration of the indices to a new
>     cluster
>     seamlessly. Let me first describe the situation:
>
>     I have a project which uses Elasticsearch since a few weeks ago.
>     This is our
>     first Elasticsearch project, and as we are satisfied with it, we
>     decided to
>     dedicate a cluster of 3 nodes to run Elasticsearch (lets call it
>     "newcluster"). It is up and running separately from our old 1-node
>     Elasticsearch installation ("oldcluster"). We want to migrate
>     everything to
>     newcluster, and turn oldcluster off. All 4 servers are running
>     Ubuntu Server,
> Elasticsearch is installed from the official deb package, oldcluster is
>     0.90.10 and newcluster 1.0.0.
>
>     I came up with the following solution, but I'm not sure it will work:
>
>     - Upgrade oldcluster to 1.0.0 (tested it in dev, should work)
>     - Backup the index (we have only one index right now) in case
>     something goes
>         wrong.
>     - Change oldcluster's name to newcluster.
>     - Wait until the nodes synchronize themselves (how can I check if
>     they're in
>         sync?)
>     - Shut down oldcluster.
>
>     Thank you very much,
>     Attila
>
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