Hi Adrien,

I kept the logs up over the last optimize call, and I did see an 
exception.  I Ctrl-C'd a curl optimize call before making another one, but 
I don't think that that caused this exception.  The error is essentially as 
follows:

netty - Caught exception while handling client http traffic, closing 
connection [id: 0x4d8f1a90, /127.0.0.1:33480 :> /127.0.0.1:9200]

java.nio.channels.ClosedChannelException at 
AbstractNioWorker.cleanUpWriteBuffer(AbstractNioWorker.java:433)
at AbstractNioWorker.writeFromUserCode
at NioServerSocketPipelineSink.handleAcceptedSocket
at NioServerSocketPipelineSink.eventSunk
at DefaultChannelPipeline$DefaultChannelhandlerContext.sendDownstream
at Channels.write
at OneToOneEncoder.doEncode
at OneToOneEncoder.handleDownstream
at DefaultChannelPipeline.sendDownstream
at DefaultChannelPipeline.sendDownstream
at Channels.write
at AbstractChannel.write
at NettyHttpChannel.sendResponse
at RestOptimizeAction$1.onResponse(95)
at RestOptimizeAction$1.onResponse(85)
at TransportBroadcastOperationAction$AsyncBroadcastAction.finishHim
at TransportBroadcastOperationAction$AsyncBroadcastAction.onOperation
at TransportBroadcastOperationAction$AsyncBroadcastAction$2.run

Sorry about the crappy stack trace.  Still, looks like this might point to 
a problem!  The exception fired about an hour after I kicked off the 
optimize.  Any thoughts?

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:06:57 AM UTC-4, Elliott Bradshaw wrote:
>
> Hi Adrien,
>
> I did customize my merge policy, although I did so only because I was so 
> surprised by the number of segments left over after the load.  I'm pretty 
> sure the optimize problem was happening before I made this change, but 
> either way here are my settings:
>
> "index" : {
> "merge" : {
> "policy" : {
> "max_merged_segment" : "20gb",
> "segments_per_tier" : 5,
> "floor_segment" : "10mb"
> },
> "scheduler" : "concurrentmergescheduler"
> }
> }
>
> Not sure whether this set up could be a contributing factor or not.  
> Nothing really jumps out at me in the logs.  In fact, when i kick off the 
> optimize, I don't see any logging at all.  Should I?
>
> I'm running the following command: curl -XPOST 
> http://localhost:9200/index/_optimize
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:56:35 AM UTC-4, Adrien Grand wrote:
>>
>> Hi Elliott,
>>
>> 1500 segments per shard is certainly way too much, and it is not normal 
>> that optimize doesn't manage to reduce the number of segments.
>>  - Is there anything suspicious in the logs?
>>  - Have you customized the merge policy or scheduler?[1]
>>  - Does the issue still reproduce if you restart your cluster?
>>
>> [1] 
>> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/index-modules-merge.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Elliott Bradshaw <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Any other thoughts on this?  Would 1500 segments per shard be 
>>> significantly impacting performance?  Have you guys noticed this behavior 
>>> elsewhere?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 7, 2014 8:56:38 AM UTC-4, Elliott Bradshaw wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Adrian,
>>>>
>>>> I ran the following command:
>>>>
>>>> curl -XPUT http://localhost:9200/_settings -d 
>>>> '{"indices.store.throttle.max_bytes_per_sec" : "10gb"}'
>>>>
>>>> and received a { "acknowledged" : "true" } response.  The logs showed 
>>>> "cluster state updated".
>>>>
>>>> I did have to close my index prior to changing the setting and reopen 
>>>> afterward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've since began another optimize, but again it doesn't look like much 
>>>> is happening.  The optimize isn't returning and the total CPU usage on 
>>>> every node is holding at about 2% of a single core.  I would copy a 
>>>> hot_threads stack trace, but I'm unfortunately on a closed network and 
>>>> this 
>>>> isn't possible.  I can tell you that refreshes of hot_threads show vary 
>>>> little happening.  The occasional [merge] thread (always in a 
>>>> LinkedTransferQueue.awaitMatch() state) or [optimize] (doing nothing 
>>>> on a waitForMerge() call) thread shows up, but it's always consuming 0-1% 
>>>> CPU.  It sure feels like something isn't right.  Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Adrien Grand <adrien...@elasticsearch.
>>>> com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did you see a message in the logs confirming that the setting has been 
>>>>> updated? It would be interesting to see the output of hot threads[1] to 
>>>>> see 
>>>>> what your node is doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/
>>>>> reference/current/cluster-nodes-hot-threads.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Elliott Bradshaw 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. I have run max_num_segments=1 every time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Michael Sick <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you tried max_num_segments=1 on your optimize? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Elliott Bradshaw <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts on this?  I've run optimize several more times, and 
>>>>>>>> the number of segments falls each time, but I'm still over 1000 
>>>>>>>> segments 
>>>>>>>> per shard.  Has anyone else run into something similar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:21:29 AM UTC-4, Elliott Bradshaw 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK.  Optimize finally returned, so I suppose something was 
>>>>>>>>> happening in the background, but I'm still seeing over 6500 segments. 
>>>>>>>>>  Even 
>>>>>>>>> after setting max_num_segments=5.  Does this seem right?  Queries are 
>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>> little faster (350-400ms) but still not great.  Bigdesk is still 
>>>>>>>>> showing a 
>>>>>>>>> fair amount of file IO.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 3, 2014 8:47:32 AM UTC-4, Elliott Bradshaw 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've recently upgraded to Elasticsearch 1.1.0.  I've got a 4 node 
>>>>>>>>>> cluster, each with 64G of ram, with 24G allocated to Elasticsearch 
>>>>>>>>>> on 
>>>>>>>>>> each.  I've batch loaded approximately 86 million documents into a 
>>>>>>>>>> single 
>>>>>>>>>> index (4 shards) and have started benchmarking 
>>>>>>>>>> cross_field/multi_match 
>>>>>>>>>> queries on them.  The index has one replica and takes up a total of 
>>>>>>>>>> 111G.  
>>>>>>>>>> I've run several batches of warming queries, but queries are not as 
>>>>>>>>>> fast as 
>>>>>>>>>> I had hoped, approximately 400-500ms each.  Given that *top *(on 
>>>>>>>>>> Centos) shows 5-8 GB of free memory on each server, I would assume 
>>>>>>>>>> that the 
>>>>>>>>>> entire index has been paged into memory (I had worried about disk 
>>>>>>>>>> performance previously, as we are working in a virtualized 
>>>>>>>>>> environment).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A stats query on the index in questions shows that the index is 
>>>>>>>>>> composed of > 7000 segments.  This seemed high to me, but maybe it's 
>>>>>>>>>> appropriate.  Regardless, I dispatched an optimize command, but I am 
>>>>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>>>>> seeing any progress and the command has not returned.  Current 
>>>>>>>>>> merges 
>>>>>>>>>> remains at zero, and the segment count is not changing.  Checking 
>>>>>>>>>> out hot 
>>>>>>>>>> threads in ElasticHQ, I initially saw an optimize call in the stack 
>>>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>>>> was blocked on a waitForMerge call.  This however has disappeared, 
>>>>>>>>>> and I'm 
>>>>>>>>>> seeing no evidence that the optimize is occuring.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does any of this seem out of the norm or unusual?  Has anyone 
>>>>>>>>>> else had similar issues.  This is the second time I have tried to 
>>>>>>>>>> optimize 
>>>>>>>>>> an index since upgrading.  I've gotten the same result both time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help/tips!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Elliott
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