You will want to obtain Marvel (
http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/marvel/current/) and then wait till
you have a history and start digging.

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: [email protected]
web: www.campaignmonitor.com


On 13 May 2014 20:29, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok, do you know if there are clear indicators when limits are being
> reached?
>
> We don't see errors in the logs (apart from the 30s timeout) but if there
> are system or ES provided metrics that we can track to know when we need to
> scale it would be really useful.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:24:06 AM UTC+1, Mark Walkom wrote:
>>
>> Empty or not, there is still metadata that ES needs to maintain in the
>> cluster state. So the more indexes you have open the bigger that is and the
>> more resources required to track it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mark Walkom
>>
>> Infrastructure Engineer
>> Campaign Monitor
>> email: [email protected]
>> web: www.campaignmonitor.com
>>
>>
>> On 13 May 2014 20:16, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In testing and replicating the issue, this slow down has been seen
>>> occurring with empty indices.
>>>
>>> The running cluster is at present ~100 GB across 2,200 Indices with a
>>> total of 13,500 shards and ~430,000,000 documents.
>>>
>>> We have 7GB RAM and 5GB heap on the data nodes - haven't looked overly
>>> carefully but don't think the heap is maxing out on any of the nodes when
>>> this occurs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:02:32 AM UTC+1, Mark Walkom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like the inevitable "add more nodes" situation.
>>>>
>>>> How much RAM on each node, how big is your data set?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mark Walkom
>>>>
>>>> Infrastructure Engineer
>>>> Campaign Monitor
>>>> email: [email protected]
>>>> web: www.campaignmonitor.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13 May 2014 19:59, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We are seeing a slow down in shard initialization speed as the number
>>>>> of shards/indices grows in our cluster.
>>>>>
>>>>> With 0-100's of indices/shards existing in the cluster a new bulk
>>>>> creation of indices up the 100's at a time is fine, we see them pass
>>>>> through the states and get a green cluster in a reasonable amount of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> As the total cluster size grows to 1000+ indices (3000+ shards) we
>>>>> begin to notice that the first rounds of initialization take longer to
>>>>> process, it seems to speed up after the first few batches, but this slow
>>>>> down leads to "failed to process cluster event (create-index
>>>>> [index_1112], cause [auto(bulk api)]) within 30s" type messages in the
>>>>> Master logs - the indices are eventually created.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone else experienced this? (did you find the cause / way to
>>>>> fix?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this somewhat expected behaviour? - are we approaching something
>>>>> incorrectly? (there are 3 data nodes involved, with 3 shards per index)
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