Because I don't know your system setup, I have to do wild guessing.

If it is not the network, can you observe frequent index recovery or shard
reallocations? 503 (service unavailable) is a code that is sent when shards
are not available.

Have you set replica level by any chance or are indices replicas disabled?

Jörg


On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Chris Rimondi <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I have considered network before but I don't understand a few things:
> 1) Why would these API calls work consistently if the cluster was green
> versus yellow or red?
> 2) Before I make these calls I can check the health of the cluster and
> 100% of the nodes are "checked in". Therefore it is not like network
> connectivity is preventing my data nodes from communicating to the masters.
> 3) We run multiple clusters. Some are split across subnets and some are
> not. However, this API badness takes place in both scenarios.
>
> In short I have seen 0 evidence where network latency or flakiness has
> caused any cluster issues. I am open to any type of testing that might
> disprove that, but I really don't think this is network connectivity
> problems.
>
>
> On Saturday, August 2, 2014 10:54:41 AM UTC-4, Jörg Prante wrote:
>
>> This looks a a network configuration challenge. You should review your
>> whole network setup. Look at network device config, host names, gateway
>> setup, DNS name resolution, routers/switches (if your ES clusters spans
>> over subnetworks).
>>
>> If your network setup is not 100% solid, requests over the wire will
>> timeout, fail, hang, etc.
>>
>> ES (not only ES) can not remedy such situations from the inside of an
>> application. You should not blame REST API, with Java API, it would be the
>> same situation.
>>
>> Jörg
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Chris Rimondi <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is going to sound like a bit of a gripe session so I apologize in
>>> advance. There seems to be a lot of instability and ineffectiveness around
>>> using the REST API to make configuration changes. I realize there have been
>>> some issues related to the NPE returns on certain calls. In addition to
>>> those problems (which I believe have been addressed in ES 1.2.x and 1.3.x)
>>> I have found that if the cluster is in anything but a pristine state the
>>> calls simply do not return or error out with a 503 response.
>>>
>>> Activities such as changing the number of replicas on certain indices or
>>> modifying throttle settings almost always return a 503 on a cluster that is
>>> yellow. It is when the cluster is in a degraded state that we need these
>>> calls the most! Also, simple information calls such as /_cat/nodes will
>>> many times not return when the cluster is yellow. Sometimes it appears that
>>> an API call is hanging only to find out that the setting really did take.
>>>
>>> We maintain multiple ES clusters internally and all the tooling we have
>>> built around supporting them simply assumes the acknowledgement returned
>>> from the API calls is unreliable. Can we expect better reliability with the
>>> Java APIs? Is there plans to make the RESTful calls more robust?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
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