I must admit I'm new to this so I find some of the information hard to 
understand. So sorry if I am asking stupid questions.

> On 12 Sep 2014, at 18:26, Ivan Brusic <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I would strongly prefer to maintain control of the indexing side and not in 
> Elasticsearch. In fact, the Elasticsearch team has talked about deprecating 
> river plugins. I do not have any numbers, but I would suspect that the 
> majority of users do not use a river plugin. And yes, the correct term is the 
> JDBC plugin, not driver. The wrong term confused many. :)
> 
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> Ivan
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:24 AM, [email protected] 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You can use either style, it is a matter of taste, or convenience.
>> 
>> With the JDBC plugin, you can also push data instead of pull.
>> 
>> Jörg
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:11 PM, James <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I want to close this issue but I still do not understand if I should be 
>>> pushing documents from my database using the PHP client or using the JDBC 
>>> river to pull them into elasticsearch from the SQL database. 
>>> 
>>> They can both achieve the same thing, but what is the usecase which defines 
>>> when is the right time to use each implementation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:59:18 AM UTC+1, James wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm setting up a system where I have a main SQL database which is synced 
>>>> with elasticsearch. My plan is to use the main PHP library for 
>>>> elasticsearch. 
>>>> 
>>>> I was going to have a cron run every thirty minuets to check for items in 
>>>> my database that not only have an "active" flag but that also do not have 
>>>> an "indexed" flag, that means I need to add them to the index. Then I was 
>>>> going to add that item to the index. Since I am using taking this path, it 
>>>> doesn't seem like I need the JDBC driver, as I can add items to 
>>>> elasticsearch using the PHP library.
>>>> 
>>>> So, my question is, can I get away without using the JDBC driver?
>>>> 
>>>> James
>>> 
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