Hi,

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 4:49 PM, [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Can you explain how you compare rivers with SolrCloud data import handlers?
>

They are similar in the sense that they both run inside their containers
(Solr/SolrCloud or ES) and *pull* data in.  Data Import Handler (DIH) in
Solr is similarly not the greatest way to index data in Solr even though it
was (and still is) super popular.

Otis
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> Rivers were once designed as a singleton to fetch data very quick for
> prototyping and demo purpose, not more. With the official ES client
> families, and with logstash / message queue "push" architecture, they can
> often be replaced.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jörg
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:14 PM, "Jürgen Wagner (DVT)" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Hello,
>>   we generally don't use rivers as it does not seem to be a good idea to
>> put too much of connector functionality into a search nodes themselves. The
>> scaling of connectors and feeding is entirely different from that of
>> processing and indexing or querying. That's why it is in my opinion clearly
>> advisable to keep such components in an architecture separate and not to
>> interweave them more than necessary. The notorious data import handlers of
>> SolrCloud demonstrate where this leads to.
>>
>> I don't know what stance the Elasticsearch folks take towards rivers, but
>> from an architectural point of view, the clear separation from
>> Elasticsearch seems like a good mid- to long-term goal to go for.
>>
>> My 5 EUR-cents worth of feedback...
>>
>> --Jürgen
>>
>>
>> On 16.11.2014 21:24, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>>
>> We've seen issues with Rivers in the past and no longer use them in our
>> engagements.
>>
>>  Otis
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>>
>> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:17:36 PM UTC-5, Alexandre Rafalovitch
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ElasticSearch 1.4 is out and I can't see any mentions that Rivers are
>>> deprecated.
>>>
>>> Has that (informal) decision been reversed? Or was the timeline
>>> further out? What's the currently recommended approach?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>    Alex.
>>>
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