Hi David,

 

The documentations you pointed out are exactly what I am looking for. They 
are really helpful and demonstrate the uniqueness of Elasticsearch on 
scalability :-)

 

I like the tips in "faking index per user with aliases" very much, but 
since it basically routes the request to a single shard, I just want to 
double check with you whether multiple users can share the same shard. 

Thanks,
Cindy


On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 06:23:07 UTC-5, David Pilato wrote:
>
> I think I would start reading this: 
> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/kagillion-shards.html
> This 
> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/user-based.html
> and this 
> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/faking-it.html
>
> Actually the full chapter: 
> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/scale.html
>  :)
>
> HTH
>
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> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 02:04, 'Cindy' via elasticsearch <
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>
> Hello
>
> We are using some other search engine and consider moving to use 
> Elasticsearch. After done quite a lot reading, I am still not quite sure 
> what the optimized way should be in our case, especially after I read that 
> the number of shards can NOT be changed once the index is created.
>
>  
> In our situation, our product is hosted in cloud environment and has rapid 
> growing number of users, and each user is given various disk space(several 
> gigabytes to hundreds gigabytes) to import their datasets. We index these 
> datasets with fixed number of fields and the fields are all the same for 
> some purpose. Each user can only search in their own imported datasets for 
> security reason (segregated). So there is no need to query against the 
> entire index and query time is much more important than indexing time. Our 
> current query time is about 10 to 40 ms.
>
>  
> It's very crucial for us how to scale out horizontally smoothly.
>
>  
> If everything is added into one index with one type, I worried the 
> index/search will be getting slower and slower with growing of the size of 
> the indices. 
>
>  
> So I plan to split the indices to speed up query, and here are some options
>
>    1. Use one index and create a type for each user such that the query 
>    from one user is directly against his own type. But since the number of 
>    users can be over million, can elasticsearch be able to handle million 
>    types in one index? 
>    2. Group users into different indices such that the index/query can be 
>    dispatched  to different indices, so a smaller index to query from. But 
>    this means our application has to handle the complexity of horizontal 
> scale 
>    out. 
>
>  
> Is any option doable? Any option would you recommend?
>
>  
> Besides, could you please tell me how many shards one index should have in 
> best practice? Does too many shards also have performance hit?
>
> Many thanks,
> Cindy
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