Mark when you say you cannot re-index the document you mean re-index within 
the cluster? But if we resubmit the document using the index API it will 
get re-indexed and updated version 2 right?

So Elastic search will mark the document to be deleted from the segment and 
eventually merge the "updated" data?

On Monday, 23 February 2015 17:19:49 UTC-5, John Smith wrote:
>
> Yeah sorry should have mentioned the tradeoffs.
>
> I think there some interesting use-cases here for instance if you are 
> building a pure analytics dashboard where it's 100% aggregations then you 
> can save allot of space with _source: false, _all: false
>
> In my case I'm opting for _source: true, _all: false. Since I need to 
> re-index a document but don't care about the all search. My users are 
> required to specify the field they want to search by specifying the field 
> through a drop down... So it's good for the 25% saving
>
> On Monday, 23 February 2015 17:04:35 UTC-5, Jack Park wrote:
>>
>> Thank you very much, Mark.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Walkom <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks John, this is a really interesting test.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have no _source you cannot reindex or view the actual raw content 
>>> that was sent to ES, only the analysed portions you keep.
>>> No _all means you have to know the exact field you want to search on or 
>>> else you may get no results, as ES will search _all by default (think of it 
>>> as a shortcut search field).
>>>
>>>
>>> As an aside, we are working on adding a new compression algorithm for ES 
>>> which will also improve storage capacity.
>>>
>>> On 24 February 2015 at 07:27, Jack Park <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is lost (the tradeoff) when _source is disabled?
>>>> What is lost when _all is disabled?
>>>>
>>>> This is interesting!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, John Smith <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't run a blog but I thought I would share some results with the 
>>>>> community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using Elasticsearch 1.4.3
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to test the various ways we could save some storage on our ES 
>>>>> index and here are some numbers
>>>>>
>>>>> Created 6 different indexes with the various mapping settings.
>>>>> Each index containing 4 types.
>>>>> Insert 100,000 documents per type so total 400,000 per index.
>>>>> Average document size 300-400 bytes.
>>>>>
>>>>> The values represent the total primary space taken by each index based 
>>>>> on the different mapping settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> _source: true = 45MB 
>>>>> _source: true, _all: false = 34MB
>>>>> _source: false = 30MB
>>>>> _source: false, _all: false = 18MB
>>>>> _source: false, store: true (all fields) = 39.5MB
>>>>> _source: false, store: true (all fields), _all: false = 28.5MB
>>>>>
>>>>> As you can see the default _source setting takes the most space, while 
>>>>> disabling the _source and _all field saves the most space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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