On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:13 AM, Vic Rosenthal wrote:

I am experimenting with using the K2 rant input (that's receiver antenna, not verbal outburst).

I want to use my 20-meter quad as a receiving antenna when I am transmitting on 160 with an inverted L. It is a lot quieter. The L is right next to the quad, so a lot of voltage is induced in the quad when transmitting with high power.

Vic,

I think you may be missing the point of using a separate receiving antenna on noisy bands like 160m.

While the 20m quad may be quieter, that's likely due to the smaller size and gross impedance mis-match of the 20m antenna on 160m. The 20m quad is probably quieter for ALL signals and noise alike, which doesn't help.

The key to using a separate receiving antenna on 160m is NOT just to have a quiet, lossy antenna -- but to have a quiet, lossy, DIRECTIONAL antenna. The idea is to improve the signal / noise ratio by limiting the noise intercepted at the antenna. Since noise is generally thought to come from all directions, using an directional antenna makes signals appear stronger.

The Beverage antenna is probably the most popular receiving antenna in this service, but requires a lot of real estate. For 160m, a Beverage would be about 500 feet long.

For those of us without room for such an antenna, the flag, pennant and K9AY loop are good substitutes. These antennas have a cardioid (heart-shaped) pattern, with a strong null in the opposite direction. Magnetic receiving loops area also useful, particularly for nulling out strong local noise sources.

All of these receiving antennas should be mounted well away from the transmitting antenna, to avoid the type of coupling you're having trouble with now, as well as to avoid noise reception due to mutual coupling. Since these antennas are intentionally lossy, it usually doesn't take that much distance to avoid transmitter overload.

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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