[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>...I wasn't even asking about using my K2 (which
> I want to keep in qrp version......I was willing to get 
> a Yaecomwood for MARS use.

Even there, you'd have to select the Yaecomwood rig carefully.

FWIW, the K2 does *not* come near meeting the NTIA frequency stability specs to 
which, say, the Civil Air Patrol (CAP) has committed, and to which MARS no 
doubt will eventually.  See the CAP's official HF equipment compliance list at:

https://ntc.cap.af.mil/comm/equipment/hf_equipment.cfm

The info on this web site is interesting.  Many Japanese amateur rigs meet NTIS 
specs if they have a TXCO reference oscillator (usually an expensive option) 
installed.  Even my 12 year old TS-50S!  But some rigs, like even most late 
model Yaesu gear, do not.

The K2 is quoted as having a 3 ppm frequency stability spec, but the NTIA limit 
is 0.67 ppm.  Also, CAP and many USAF MARS frequencies are near the K2 IF 
frequency.

The most common MARS/CAP rigs of 35 years ago, the Heathkit HW-18 and Collins 
KWM-2A (AN/FRC-93) also fail current specs by wide margin.

Thom wrote:

>Oh NAVY MARS was a lot of help.....their comment was that a
>QRP rig would simply not work, and that I should avoid kits, 

IMHO, they have a good point.  The main thrust of current MARS activity is 
training for emergency communications.  Even if operation is planned using 
battery power, a 100-watt HF rig is essential unless one is mainly interested 
in casual "no-never-mind-if-it-doesn't-work" emergency communications.

>since NAVY MARS was moving towards digital communications.

That's the NTIA compliance spec coming down the pike!

>And so, I await to hear from Air Force MARS...

USAF MARS frequencies, unlike those of Army or USN/USMC MARS, will generally be 
well outside the ham bands.  Can the K2 function at a typical USAF MARS 
frequency of 4832 kHz?

Keep in mind that MARS or CAP or USCG Auxillary operation is not intended to be 
an extension of ham radio.  In fact, conducting MARS/CAP/USCG AUX business on 
ham bands is equivalent to conducting a business activity on the ham bands, and 
is forbidden by the FCC.  Many of our hobby rigs, for all their merits for ham 
operations, don't cut it for use outside the ham bands. 

I was a member of Navy/Marine Corps MARS from 1968 to 1981 (N0LTD), and Army 
MARS (AAT6UI) from 1981 to 1986.  During the Vietnam war we handled a lot of 
serviceman voice and written traffic, as well as recruit depot notifications.  
That sort of traffic is all pretty much a thing of the past, so the emergency 
communications game is about all that's left now.

There's a lot of good people on the MARS circuits.  However, I decided not to 
re-affiliate with any MARS system after the use of Morse in any capacity, even 
on training nets and in MARS repeater IDs, was **banned** in the 1990s.

73,
Mike / KK5F
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