Oh no, not again. Didn't this thread end already?
Been big, gone small..job done! Happy camper!...(:-) Gary On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Philippe Trottet <trot...@unhcr.org> wrote: > K3 has been primarily designed for portable use/dx-speditions & field days > and honestly I'm more focused and impressed from the results than the > design. Everything is functional and easy to access even with my big fingers > and for those who are lack of space (it's not my case) it would be an > add-up. > A Steve says, to propose a "base" version would be a complete technical > re-design of the K3 and really on the financial side what would be the > market for a tiny company to invest in such a project ? Need to be sure to > sold many thousands of units, enroll more staff, even new engineering > equipment, larger premises, increasing exponentially the costs ...& taxes > etc... > In that specific case, Wayne & Eric are listening to most of our realistic > comments and advises and the evolution of the K3 took our concerns to > consideration that is the Ham sprit at a level where no major company has > gone before. > Human being is never satisfied of one's lot but I think we have to be > modest and self adapted to the Elecraft rigs as they offer the best they can > do. > If they propose a new rig in the future it would be another issue and all > our fears would have been analysed and well think over. > > Bst 73's > Philippe A65BI > K3#3616 > *Elecraft, for Hams, by Hams...What else ? > > > > > >>> "Steve Harvey" <n...@embarqmail.com> 10-08-2010 22:18 >>> > I don't really have a horse in this race because I am personally very happy > with my K3 (#693) and, knowing that Wayne's Engineering degree included > emphasis on Engineering Ergonomics, I am satisfied that he has given us the > best possible radio in the form factor that is most popular to most people > who represent his target market. > > However, while there is nothing wrong with dreaming and asking for changes, > I wonder how many of the Big Box k3 requesters have considered the > magnitude > of the effort required on Elecraft's part to deliver such a thing. > > First, the job would not be as trivial as simply re-packaging the insides > in > a bigger box. It would involve the design and testing of a new RF board > and > front panel in order to remove controls and displays to a different front > panel (which would also have to be designed and tested) and to remove ports > to a different back panel. Internal cable routing, shielding, and > structural > support would have to be altered with consequent testing as well. Cramming > the P3, KPA500, and a power supply inside would only complicate things > further. Also, because functions would have to be removed from menus and > associated with front panel hardware, the firmware would have to be > rewritten, which would require two versions to be maintained in parallel > and > alpha/beta tested for each release to keep them in sync. Elecraft is a > small company, and most of the design and programming is done by only a > couple of people whose jobs would grow enormously, and which would deprive > other, more critical projects of their time and effort. > > Second, how much would the Big Box people be willing to pay for the > upgrade, > and how many could Elecraft expect to sell? My guess is that in order to > amortize the time and materials to develop such an upgrade given the > considerations above, each unit could cost as much as the K3 itself > (possibly more depending on expected sales volume), which could bring it > into the price range of some of the "big iron" with which it favorably > competes, both cost- and feature-wise. I suspect that there would not be > many takers at those prices. > > I'm sorry that some of the current owners of K3s seem to be disappointed in > it. Every engineering project is a trade-off, and I think that Wayne and > Eric represent the Burt Rutans of the radio world. Given that, I don't > think that even Burt Rutan would consider adapting a VariEze (K2) or a > Starship (K3) into an AirBus form factor, and I doubt that very many > customers would buy one. > > > 73 de Steve, NN0B > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas Farrar [mailto:nfar...@bfpacs.com] > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:32 PM > To: elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] Big box K3 > > * > So stop making noise just to be heard. What Im asking for would affect you > anti-changer zero. And we all got it a few post back Phil... you dont like > change.... fine. Then if you dont have any thing constructive to add, don't > play. Some of us do want something new. Something more. The K3 is GREAT! > But > even the Queen of England could stand to refine herself a bit more. The > beauty of what Im asking for in not the end of the K3. Its just > enhancement. > Why do some people fly off the handle of something so small. Take your toys > and go home. Dont spoil our party on the idea of a larger K3(K3A). > > > > > Phil Hystad* phystad at mac.com > <elecraft% > 40mailman.qth.net?Subject=Re:%20%5BElecraft%5D%20Big%20box%20K3&In > -Reply-To=%3C86842DC2-2AE9-4C26-95C1-77ED5E41E630%40mac.com%3E<http://40mailman.qth.net?Subject=Re:%20%5BElecraft%5D%20Big%20box%20K3&In%0A-Reply-To=%3C86842DC2-2AE9-4C26-95C1-77ED5E41E630%40mac.com%3E> > > > *Mon Aug 9 21:13:21 EDT 2010* > > > - Previous message: [Elecraft] Big Box > K-3<http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/134407.html> > - *Messages sorted by:* [ date > ]<http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/date.html#134408> > [ thread > ]<http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/thread.html#134408 > > > [ subject > ]< > http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/subject.html#134408> > [ author > ]<http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/author.html#134408 > > > > ------------------------------ > > It seems to be that a bigger K3 is a different radio then the K3 and > should be called something different. No, not even K3A or whatever. > > I probably would not buy one though. I like my K3 as it is. If there > is some great new technology that is embraced by Elecraft that does > not fit the K3, then maybe it is time for a K4. If that is in a > bigger box, then so be it if that is needed. But, to have a bigger > box merely to use space is not my obsession. > > I think the IC-7800 and the FT-9000 whatever are in very big boxes. > When I first saw the FT-9000 my first thought was "No, I don't want > that". > > I am surprised Eric hasn't put the kibosh to this thread -- maybe they > are listening to the comments. If you are, I vote for status quo. > > PEH > > -- > Nicholas W. Farrar > Network Engineer / IT Coordinator > > Brown Folse PACS > nfar...@bfpacs.com > > Office 318-595-0451 > Mobile 318-381-9863 > Fax 866-248-6128 > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
