Hi Rich,

Thanks for the detailed description.  I think I'm getting it now.  Sometimes 
I'm a bit slow, sometimes I'm a bit fast, I guess I have a high amount of 
jitter on my clock (sorry, it is a work related joke, and probably a poor one 
at that).  

Now, I think I only have three more questions (for now) based on your 
description.  What is the mod that you are referring to?  I have a nearly brand 
new K2 (S/N 4786), so is the mod already implemented by Elecraft in my kit or 
is it yet another mod I should do?  In my case the radio was on for well over 
one hour, so it should have been nice & stable.  

Next question is once the filter calibrations & settings are done I understand 
how it could be off by as little as 1 Hz or as much as 20 Hz from OP1.  Is this 
value consistent once things are set or does it vary each time the filter is 
switched in/out?  If for example the K2 is done being set up and FL4 is 
activated (which mine is and is set for 1000 Hz center frequency and 700 Hz 
BW), it may be say 5 Hz low.  If I switch it to OP1 it should be right on with 
Tx & Rx, if I switch to FL2, FL3 or FL4 it could be off by as little as 1 Hz or 
as much as 20 Hz, but will FL4 always be off by 5 Hz (unless I change filter 
calibration settings)?

Final question for now is related to the DSP filter I just installed.  I set up 
DSP filters which I still need to play with to get a feeling for, but 
essentially expect them to act as a brick wall for signals outside their 
parameters.  While I know they are audio and not IF filters so if I have a very 
strong station nearby while I'm using OP1 on Tx & Rx and a very narrow DSP 
filter I may not get the best function out of the filtering.  So, I would then 
use a combination of FL2/FL3/FL4 as appropriate and then add DSP as well.  Oh, 
the question is if I use OP1 for Tx & Rx and a narrow DSP filter I don't think 
the DSP will change the frequency at all like the FL2 - FL4 filters would, is 
that correct?  So, assuming that is the case, maybe I always want to use OP1 
and the desired DSP filter and then just add FL2 to FL4 as needed.  I guess I 
just have to play with it and see what works best for me in given 
circumstances.  

72/73,

Mark, NK8Q

>From: Rich Lentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon May 02 13:03:56 CDT 2005
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: 'NR5A' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'Elecraft Reflector' <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K2 drifting?

>The RTTY or Digital filters are available on the newer versions of
>"firmware" and allow a complete set of filters tuned and setup specifically
>for RTTY or digital modes, however they must be enabled.  The manual
>explains this Or if you have an older K2 with an upgraded MCU then you need
>to look at the newer manual.
>
>The major point is that -  1. it is almost impossible to get any of the
>narrower filters within 1 Hz of the main (OP1) filter that is used for
>transmit in all cases regardless of which filter is selected. 2. The PSK
>program will transmit a tone equal to what the PSK program thinks is the
>received signal frequency - however, that is off frequency by 1 to as much
>as 20/30 Hz. from the actual received frequency when ANY filter is used
>other than OP1 because the K2 switches to OP1 in transmit. (The offset can
>be observed by tuning in a solid carrier and switching filters.)  3. If the
>other Party has AFC turned on then he will now transmit at that new
>frequency and thus the drift or actually frequency starts walking up/down
>the band.  
>
>If you don't have AFC turned on then you will continue to transmit at the
>same frequency, unless you reset the signal to the new frequency. If at
>least one of the two parties involved does not have AFC turned on then Drift
>is less likely to happen. 
>
>There is a small amount of drift in the K2 (less with the Temp Stabilizing
>MOD) from cold start for about 15 - 30 Minutes. Thus the above discussion
>assumes that 1. you have the temp stabilizing mod installed and 2. the rig
>has been on for about 30 minutes.
>
>Rich
>
>
>----------
>
>Oh, good point.  I forgot to mention that I was using  FL4 which was 
>specifically set up for 1000 Hz center frequency and 700 Hz bandwidth.  
>
>I thought that FL4 was specifically set up for digital modes.  Does that 
>mean "other" digital modes like RTTY and that PSK31 should be run with 
>OP1 instead? 
>
>Mark, NK8Q

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