I don't recall, does the IC7600 has independent second receiver? Perhaps you can ADD second receiver to it? Can you ADD 500 Hz or 250 Hz roofing filter to it? No? Too bad, I will pass. Still not enough bang for the buck.
73, Igor, N1YX -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:59 AM To: Nate Bargmann; [email protected] Subject: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP Hello Nate, In relation to your comments about IC7600, I would add the following: 1. There is 'manual notch within AGC loop' in IC7600. This function is very useful when I use it to notch out a strong offending carrier right adjoining to my wanted desired weak signal. Since the notch is within AGC loop, the wanted weak DX signal will pop out right from the noise ground after the carrier is notched. The desense of AGC by the strong carrier disappears at the same time. I did an A/B comparison of the above during the recent CQ WW SSB contest. 2. When we calculate the cost for comparison, we have to add P3 to K3 to bring it in line. Bearing in mind, IC7600 only costs US$3,250 in Hong Kong I am still running my K3 but just plainly spell out the fact as above. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC www.qrz.com/callsign/vr2xmc ----- 郵件原件 ---- 寄件人﹕ Nate Bargmann <[email protected]> 收件人﹕ [email protected] 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/16 (二) 8:14:42 PM 主題： Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP * On 2010 15 Nov 21:49 -0600, Luis V. Romero wrote: > Good Marketing will take care of the rest! "We build Legends" is > "performance by association" from the era when there were resources for > product line development and R&D. There's still a lot of Goodwill from the > TS950/TS850 days! Even from TS520 days! Bingo! I've long thought that Kenwood had rested on its laurels from the TS-520/TS-820/TS-830 era. That's not say that some of their later products weren't good, just that they had lost their edge, especially to Yaesu in the early '90s. > And Larry, you're right, from a technical perspective, the 590 receiver > schema is really Goofy! It strikes me as rather odd as well. I suppose that the Kenwood engineers and management have their reasons, but wow! When I read preliminary information on it, I came to the conclusion that it was more complicated than it needed to be. > Elecraft's well targeted market niche is being attacked from above by the > FTdx5k and from below by the 590 and to a lesser extent, the Eagle. Most of > the erosion will be in the lower side of the equation. Main K3 competitor > is really the IC7600, and technically it leaves a lot to be desired and is > not as customizable, but undercuts K3 in price and it has the Icom "mystique > by association". Icom has done a masterful job at brand identity. And here I thought ICOM stood for "I Can Only Monitor"! ;-) To be fair, I've only owned two Icom transceivers over the years, an IC-290A 2m all mode that was the first commercial rig I bought in 1985 and later a 4AT HT. Both served their purposes well. Early on I would fall into the Kenwood camp for HF gear and later Yaesu for all my gear. In fact, I was all Yaesu until I received the K3 last month. I liked the idea of performance that rivaled the big boxes in a size near that of my FT-890AT. Watching this list and seeing Elecraft's interaction with its customers won me over. > So the K3 niche is still rather exclusive, but eroding a little bit. I'll agree the K3 is niche, but I'm not sure it's saleas are eroding. Of course I don't have sales figures, but it would appear that at least 100 more have sold since I got mine on the air about a month ago which seems healthy for a niche product that is positioned toward the high end of a niche hobby. Considering as well that the overall economy is not doing as well as when the K3 was introduced, I'd say it's doing quite well. I'd also submit that as mentioned earlier in this thread that there are those who would not be comfortable buying a K3 for their main transceiver as they feel more comfortable going with a product from one of the brand names. I can understand that as it took me a while to accept the idea as I spent several months evaluating Elecraft as a company before I took the plunge. The established players are known quantities while Elecraft is still building its reputation in the larger amateur radio community. I'm a bit of a risk taker on things like this so I suspect I'll receive some questions about the K3 at tonight's club meeting. > Elecraft is a lot like Honda in the mid 70's. Pick the niche, build a solid > product and back it with uncompromising service, winning one customer at a > time. I take for granted you're referring to Honda cars. In motorcycles, they were a juggernaut at the time. Which allowed them to bring products like the CBX to market. By 1980 they had forced Kawasaki into catch-up mode where Kawi had been regarded as the performance king just a few years earlier. Then Suzuki came along with its GSX-R line... 73, de Nate N0NB >> -- ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
