> All this has nothing to do with his K3 but what about a Choke Balun? Is it 
> really a balun or is it a unun? We use the same device to feed a ground 
> mounted vertical to reduce RF on the coax and to feed a balanced dipole 
> with coax. It's both a balun and unun depending on how it's used.
>
> Steve
> N4LQ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike" <n...@nf4l.com>
> To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 not recieving
>
>
> I've heard quite a few people use balun, when they meant impedence 
> transformer or unun.
>
> I heard somewhere (and the tapes have been erased) that the 43' length 
> came about
> because it was the most economical length for a manufacturer to cut stock 
> with the
> least waste to meet shipping limitations.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 3/8/2011 5:29 PM, David Herring wrote:
>> Here's a follow-on question to the reflector...
>>
>> Vernon's set-up brings a question to mind.  He says he's using a 4:1 
>> balun on his vertical.  At first brush that seems counterintuitive, 
>> doesn't it? Isn't a vertical unbalanced?  Certainly the coax is 
>> unbalanced.  When you're mating an unbalanced feedline with an unbalanced 
>> antenna, wouldn't one be better off using an unun rather than a 4:1 
>> balun?
>>
>> In further support of my line of questioning, I've read numerous, albeit 
>> anecdotal, reports of people being displeased with the performance of 
>> their vertical, particularly the untuned ones like Zero-Five for example. 
>> But when they add an unun they are then amazed at how the antenna 
>> allegedly "sprung to life."
>>
>> 73,
>> Dave  AH6TD
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Vernon Mauery wrote:
>>
>>> Yes.  I can see the S-meter go from 3-4 down with static down to
>>> nothing with quieter static.  My best guess is that I am not trying
>>> the right times at the right places.
>>>
>>> Thanks to everyone for the help.
>>>
>>> --Vernon N7OH
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Ross Primrose N4RP<n...@aiko.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Does the received noise decrease when you disconnect the antenna?
>>>>
>>>> 73, Ross N4RP
>>>>
>>>> On 3/8/2011 1:06 AM, Vernon Mauery wrote:
>>>>> At the risk of exposing what a n00b I am when it comes to HF, I really
>>>>> need some help.  I recently (last month) purchased a K3.  First HF
>>>>> radio I have owned.  I got my license 2 years ago and have spent most
>>>>> of the time since playing with VHF.  I have been trying to teach
>>>>> myself CW and decided that it was time to step into the HF waters.  I
>>>>> studied, ogled, and dreamed of my ideal HF transceiver.  I finally
>>>>> found the K3 and having looked (at least a cursory glance) at all the
>>>>> others, I was sold.  I saved my pennies and purchased.  I also got
>>>>> myself a 43' untuned vertical antenna, balun, and radial wires.
>>>>>
>>>>> My setup: K3/100 has 100 feet of low loss 400 coax out to the 43 foot
>>>>> vertical on the hill in my back yard.  It has 8 25 foot radials and a
>>>>> 4:1 balun.  The K3 has the KATU3, KPA3, KTCXO3-1, KFL3A-400, and
>>>>> default 2.8KHz filters.  I assembled it and did followed the
>>>>> calibration instructions as well as I could.  I think I got
>>>>> everything, but obviously I missed something.  Or maybe I just need an
>>>>> elmer to tell me what to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot seem to find any signals that make the S meter go above a 3
>>>>> or 4.  I have the RF gain turned up a fair ways (mostly to the top),
>>>>> and I can hear static.  As I tune up some of the bands on SSB, I can
>>>>> hear a tone that changes higher in pitch as I tune up in frequency.  I
>>>>> have tried listening for CW, but I am hearing nothing as I scan
>>>>> through the bands.  I had a 10m horizontal dipole taped to my wall for
>>>>> a while until I found time to run the coax out to the back yard.  I
>>>>> had hoped that since it was resonant on the 10m band, maybe it would
>>>>> be able to pick up something, but it was no better (or worse) than my
>>>>> vertical.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I can tell, the radio seems to transmit.  I can see the
>>>>> power meter moving and the SWR meter moving.  The ATU seems to be able
>>>>> to find acceptable settings on most of the bands with the vertical.
>>>>> But I can't hear them.  You can't work them if you can't hear them,
>>>>> right?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a desperate plea for help.  Is it the radio or me?  Please
>>>>> have pity on the n00b and walk me through my first HF contact.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Vernon N7OH
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