Not meaning to start the entire thread again just wanted to say I found where 
my 14.316 birdie was.  I have a Ramsey DTMF Tone grabber kit that was making 
the noise.  Unplugging it from the power supply really made a difference.  I 
had it hooked to the speaker out jack of my kenwood tm 261a it displays the 
numbers anyone punches in on a repeater using their mic.  I found it after 
finally getting the battery option and going for a ride around the neighborhood 
to try to find the source and their was nothing, so I walked around the house 
and yard and still nothing.  Back on the mfj 4245 supply it came back so at 
first I thought maybe that was it but then I started unplugging things from the 
rigrunner which  I should of tried a long time ago.  


Now I am ready for the net on either frequency 73’s  WT5Y
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