Well, I've had some good fun with the IC7000, but I think I'm going to enjoy the KX3 a whole lot more :-) Performance, ergonomics, portability, convenience -- yes, I'm really looking forward to my first Elecraft experience.
73, Matt VK2ACL On 30/12/2011, at 1:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Matt, > > The KX3 will have about 30 dB better dynamic range than the IC-7000, even > without the roofing filter. > > I'm not knocking the 7000 -- it's a versatile little rig. It's just a > question of how much RX performance you want. Of course the KX3's ergonomics > are completely different, too. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > On Dec 29, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Matt Maguire wrote: > >> Hi Johnny, >> >> I thought about an FT817, but my reasoning was similar to the points you >> listed. In addition, a friend of mine lent me an FT817 to play with, and to >> do the least little thing you need to go menu diving. On the Elecraft gear, >> most of these common functions seem to be readily accessible from the front >> controls. >> >> As you point out, a used K2 could be a very good deal. The main problem with >> a used K2, though, is that you miss out on all the fun of building it >> yourself :-) I must admit, earlier in the year I was thinking about a K2, >> but was a bit worried about the size for a portable setup. But then of >> course the KX3 was announced, which fit my requirements perfectly. >> >> I have ordered a KX3 without a roofing filter, so it will be interesting to >> see how well it performs with just the DSP filtering. I do love the >> flexibility of the DSP filtering on my IC7000. However, the nice thing about >> the KX3 is that I have the option to add a roofing filter later if I find it >> is needed, whereas in the IC7000, I don't think adding/narrowing IF >> filtering before the DSP is really feasible. >> >> 73 Matt VK2ACL. >> >> >> On 30/12/2011, at 11:54 AM, Johnny Siu wrote: >> >>> I once used FT817ND for portable operation but I eventually gave it up and >>> replaced it by a K2. My reasons are: >>> ... >>> 1. I was disappointed by the RX performance of FT817 and K2 is far better. >>> FT817 is hot enough to receive everything but I cannot select the station >>> I wanted - very poor selectivity indeed; >>> 2. Current drain of K2 is as low as 180ma; >>> 3. Built-in ATU of K2 (swr 10:1) is convenivent; >>> 4. Built-in speech processor of K2 gives much more talk power; >>> 5. K2 can deliver more power at 10-15W; >>> 6. The V/U operation of FT817 can be covered by H/T >>> 7. A full loaded FT817 with filters, OBP processor etc is not that cheap >>> >>> Most of the above rationale also applies to the decision between KX3 Vs >>> FT817 though it is not quite an apple to apple comparison. Having said >>> that, I still consider FT817 is very value for money because its price in >>> VR2 is less than US$600. >>> >>> With the coming of KX3, I notice many good deals for used K2. If you do >>> not too keen on v/u, used K2 could be a good buy. >>> >>> TNX & 73, >>> >>> >>> Johnny VR2XMC >>> >>> 從︰ egsise <[email protected]> >>> 收件人︰ [email protected] >>> 傳送日期︰ 2011年12月30日 (週五) 7:40 AM >>> 主題︰ [FT817] Re: ELECRAFT >>> >>> >>> >>> Ok ok the KX3 looks good on paper, relax it's not an iphone you need to >>> defend. >>> To be honest it's not the price that matters so much, it's just not tested >>> yet. >>> So I highly doubt that the battery drain is lower than FT-817's(actually >>> FT-817 battery drain is not that bad). >>> I doubt that the digital modes are not as easy to operate portable as >>> FT-817 paired with touchscreen smartphone. >>> If the firmware has bugs then it's nice to do the upgrades of course.. >>> >>> I read somewhere that it all starts from A as antenna. >>> O for operator, and last is R as rig. >>> I guess from those three the rig affects least to how many contacts you >>> make. >>> >>> Jani OH9FZU >>> >>> --- In [email protected], "dyarnes1" <w7aqk@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> The KX3 won't appeal to everyone, particularly those who highly value the >>>> 817's ability to cover 2 and 440. However, even a "stock" KX3 will run >>>> circles around an 817 in performance and features. You get true QSK, a >>>> better display, firmware upgradeable (which Elecraft does better than >>>> anyone), Better DSP, PSK31 and RTTY w/o a computer, much lower battery >>>> drain, 8 band equalizer for both receive and transmit, etc. All this in a >>>> package that is actually smaller and lighter than the 817, and the KX3 >>>> even runs a little more power. >>>> >>>> The actual price differential is more like $250 comparing "stock model to >>>> stock model", and including the microphone. That's not all that much for >>>> the additional performance capability in my view. Admittedly I priced the >>>> "kit" version, but putting these together is very, very simple. It's just >>>> "assembling", not building. What drives the price up is all the extra >>>> goodies that you can't even get for the 817, mainly the ATU and the narrow >>>> roofing filters. The ATU option is, in my view, a "must" have considering >>>> how well Elecraft ATU's perform. >>>> >>>> There seems to be enough "apples and oranges" differential between the two >>>> radios to make it difficult for a lot of folks to see the benefit in >>>> switching. However, I don't think "value" is really a valid concern. It's >>>> more a matter of just what do you need to be happy? Isn't it great to have >>>> a choice! >>>> >>>> Dave W7AQK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In [email protected], "wildergeek" <kb8ybs@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> $1,400 for a KX3 equipped the way I'd want it. Think I'll stick with my >>>>> upgraded 817 for a while longer... >>>>> >>>>> Greg >>>>> KB8YBS >>>>> >>>>> --- In [email protected], "Richard" <f6driver@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm very interested in the KX-3 and am on their list. >>>>>> I think the receiver on my 817 really does need some serious help, like >>>>>> a narrow IF filter and W4RT DSP mod, and.............the point is why >>>>>> sink another $500 into a 10 year old radio instead selling it and use >>>>>> the proceeds towards a KX-3 state of the art SDR QRP portable. >>>>>> Either way I play it, it's going to cost, so why not end up with the >>>>>> newer technology? >>>>>> I'm ready to get flamed for saying this here, but still would like to >>>>>> hear any arguments that make sense. >>>>>> Richard >>>>>> KE4UN >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FT817/database >>> Some really good technical info at: >>> http://www.ussc.com/~turner/ft817pg.shtml >>> Please note that your messages and files sent to this group may appear >>> anywhere on the Internet or in print without notice or compensation. >>> >>> Yahoo! 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