And speaking of how ham radio must be changing over the years, what the heck 
did people do about signal reports before they had S meets to read? Bear in 
mind that this question is mostly rhetorical. I don't bother with S meter 
readings myself, but I do try to give honest signal reports anyway. BTW, you'll 
note that many if not most contests don't use signal reports as part of the 
exchange anymore precisely because of the "599 problem". (Obviously, the 
current, or recently finished, is an exception.) 

I predict an end of thread message shortly.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Ken wrote:

> 
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> 
>> Well Ken, one can nit pick many aspects of our hobby.  What's your point?
> 
> I guess my point is that the signal report has been cheapened into being 
> valueless.   Why give anyone a signal report if it's a lie?   <sigh>   I 
> guess ham radio has just changed so much over the years.....
> 
> 
>> 
>> I've always wondered why non-contesters worry so much about what 
>> contesters do?
> 
> You are right, I don't care about what contesters do.  But the same 599 
> "standard" seems to have invaded the digital modes, which I do operate.  I 
> mean why bother with a signal report if it's totally inaccurate?   I really 
> am interested in what my signal really is.  
> 
> Personally, I won't give out a signal report until I get a chance to look at 
> the S-meter.
> 
>> 
>> The HK0NA DX-Pedition made over 193,000 DX QSOs....and I'll bet 99.9% of 
>> the signal reports given were 59(9).
> 
> Now IMO, that's really sad if true.  Why pass along false information?   Some 
> people probably would like to know (truthfully) how their signal compares.
> 
> Ken WA8JXM
> 
> 
> 
> 
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