Mike sums it up nicely, as do a number of others, both paper and digital are nice for their own aspects. I wonder, tho, if there is a good way to utilize both... the digital one could be stored inside the radio, the paper kept safe while traveling away.Now if I can find a way to transfer the margin notes from the paper, into the digital, in the same margin space...... on the same page.Thank you all for your suggestions and affirmations.
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:39:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 95, Issue 50 - Electronic manuals > > > Electronic media is great (I've got a Kindle and love it!) HOWEVER, I like to > have something I can hold in my hands and turn the pages, especially when > working on gear or doing a D-I-Y project. > > As for my K2 and K3 rigs, I've print off copies of the product reviews in > QST, along with mods/fixes from the Elecraft site, and have had them bound at > Staples or Office Max, into a "tech-manual" that I can use when I work on the > radios. Also included are copies of e-mails from Gary Surrency, AB7MY, and > Ron Wilhelm, W4FPR, that have answered specific questions I've had regarding > the rigs. All this info is in addition to the written manual. The nice part > about my home made tech-manual is it is coil bound and lays flat on the > workbench or can be folded back upon itself to save workbench area if needed. > > Unfortunately, the odd size of the K2 option build/installation bulletins > means they don't fit the standard 8.5 x 11 inch paper format. Therefore, I > have them bound in a separate coil bound volume that I can grab if needed. > All this sounds like a lot of work, and it is, but it is worth it when I > really need information in a hurry. It saves me from shuffling through stacks > of manuals, paperwork, used bookie slips, traffic tickets, etc!! > > Vy 73 es Gud DX > > Rich Arland, K7SZ > "Cogito Ergo CQ!" ("I think therefore I HAM!" w/apologies to Rene Descartes > 1596-1650) > Columnist: "The Learning Curve" CQ Magazine > Columnist: "QRP Power" QST Magazine (Jan 2000 to Dec 2003) > Author: "The ARRL's Low Power Communications, The Art and Science of QRP" > (all 4 editions) > > Political understatement of the decade: "The problems we face today exist > because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those people who > vote for a living!" (de: Dr Jack Wheeler) > > > > > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:29:41 -0400 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 95, Issue 50 - Electronic > > manuals > > > > It's nice to have both. The electronic one gives you a great ability to > > find things, it's easily updated, and takes up no space on the bookshelf > > or coffee table. And it's harder to misplace. It's dirt cheap compared > > to paper. > > > > The paper one is good so I don't have to either build on my operating > > desk, or carry a computer to the workbench, and it's handier for > > checking off steps, and reading in my recliner. > > > > 73, Mike NF4L > > > > On 3/28/12 9:30 PM, Scott wrote: > > > Personally, I don't really care how many trees are used up. They grow > > > back. I want a paper copy of the manual. Then I can look up whatever I > > > want without a computer. > > > > > > Scott > > > KF5MHS > > > > > > On 3/28/2012 1:04 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > > >> While electronic manuals might save trees and PDF's are really great for > > >> searching for information, that won't speed up the delivery of manuals > > >> for > > >> new products or updates to manuals significantly. > > >> > > >> 99.9% of the time (and cost) required to create a new document is in the > > >> writing, illustrating, validating and editing. That doesn't change. > > >> > > >> Toward Dale's question, I have a binder for my K2 that I built in 2000 > > >> that > > >> has copies of all the many mods and changes that have been made to it > > >> over > > >> the years. My K2 has never had a failure, but if it did there'd be repair > > >> log in that binder too. I have considered doing that electronically, > > >> perhaps with a memory stick, but the one advantage of paper is that it > > >> does > > >> not require any technology to read it. > > >> > > >> 73, > > >> > > >> Ron AC7AC > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> > > >> How about you save the current online manuals and other info to a $4 USB > > >> Memory stick and put it in the box? Maybe Elecraft could even supply a > > >> "Elecraft" branded USB Memory Stick with the latest stuff on it. Then > > >> you > > >> would have a record that was consistent with when you bought your radio. > > >> Elecraft could even save the Calibration data to that memory stick as > > >> well. > > >> Personally I'd rather have that than the printed manual, and I suspect it > > >> would cost far less given printing and shipping costs. > > >> > > >> Another possibility would be if Elecraft kept archival copies of all > > >> manuals > > >> online. > > >> > > >> Personally I can live without printed manuals -- I like the PDFs, but I > > >> do > > >> see Dale's point and the cheap USB Flash Drive seems like a cheap way. > > >> > > >> 73, Bob, B4SON > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Dale Putnam<[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> The one issue that I see with on line manuals ... any ideas? > > >>> > > >>> --... ...-- > > >>> Dale - WC7S in Wy > > >>> > > >> ______________________________________________________________ > > >> Elecraft mailing list > > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >> Post: mailto:[email protected] > > >> > > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >> > > >> ______________________________________________________________ > > >> Elecraft mailing list > > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >> Post: mailto:[email protected] > > >> > > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html

