I'm curious, where has Elecraft advertised or marketed the KX3 as a "base station" radio? My quick review only finds portable operation references. The only references to base station use I find is from user comments. Am I missing something?
Rich NU6T On 8/4/2012 6:42 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > all your points are perfectly okay. It is not about how to handle it and if > does physically fit or not, it is about expectations from Elecraft's > marketing. I have no problem with pluggin headphones or external speakers in. > Nevertheless I would still expect from a rig marketed (not designed!) as a > base station rig to provide sufficient audio from it's internal speaker. And > it's nothing new or magic, even the now 11 years old FT-817 provides enough > "oomph" from it's internal speaker if wanted. ;-) > > So again, it's only about expectations that marketing awakes. Just some food > for thought to Elecraft. The same applies when a rig is marketed as having 2 > voice keyer memories to name a dedicated feature. As a buyer reading that > marketing sentences I simply expect when I switch on the rig that I will be > able to use those 2 voice memories. But wait, they are not there! Uuh. > Elecraft said, it will take a few more month'! Well, this is not what I > expect when I read their datasheets and prospects. They are stirring up > expectations they cannot hold for the moment, especially for first time > buyers! > > Again, I personally have no problem with all this, I can wait and use my own > voice keyer solutions (just to stay with this one example) in-between. > Nevertheless we have a few first-time Elecraft buyers overhere who are quite > disappointed about what is not functioning yet although features are > described in the user manual as well as marketed in the ads. Nobody told them > that those features will only be available a few month' or even a year later. > >From discussions I know that some of them will never buy from Elecraft > again. Those customers are lost and that's a pity. > > So it is all about wrongly set expectations through marketing (and yes, every > customer might expect different things - that's why good marketing is not > really easy ... otherwise everybody could do it ;-)). Long time Elecraft > users (like myself) know what to expect and how new transceivers evolve over > time. New users don't. They simply expect to find working what they read in > the manual and ads when they first switch on the rig. They take it for > granted as they are used to it from all other radio manufacturers and > daily-used electronics, too! > > 73, Olli - DH8BQA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thomas Horsten > To: Oliver Dröse > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3? > > > Hi Olli, > > > Agree that it is marketed as a multi-purpose rig and it does it damned > well too. With external powered speakers I would expect it to be excellent > and that's my experience with it too. If it doesn't play well with the > external speakers how can it play well with headphones. > > > With just the internal speaker, sorry but did you actually look at the > size of that thing, considering its size it actually performs really well, > but not to hook up external speakers when used as a base station rig is IMHO > just foolish, the internal speaker is fine for operating outside on the > terrace table or out in the woods (in relatively quiet surroundings), but if > you have it in your shack then what's the big problem hooking up external > speakers and getting *excellent* audio with stereo FX and dual watch. > > > The K3 has a much bigger speaker (surprise surprise) but even that misses > the stereo (essential with the sub receiver) and it's got *nothing* on my > AudioEngine A2 speakers, which I use for both my K3 and KX3 in the shack. > > > In general I find it nicer to operate with speakers than with headset but > for portable operations a headset is sometimes the most practical, and also > at home if there are other people in the house doing noisy things or not > appreciating the sounds from the rig. > > > 73, Thomas M0TRN > > > On 4 August 2012 11:59, Oliver Dröse <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > well, I would not agree on that points with you. Elecraft is marketing > the > KX3 as a backpack AND desktop radio (with not available KXPA100 and > KXAT100). They also lay some emphazise on it being perfectly for > newcomers, > etc. So I expect it to work with the internal speaker in shack > situations, > too, not only with headphones. As I would expect from any other radio, > too. > But the KX3 does the job okay in the (quiet) shack, as long as you don't > expect it to provide sound & loudness like a stereo system. ;-) > > 73, Olli - DH8BQA > > > E-Mail ist virenfrei. > Von AVG überprüft - www.avg.de > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virendatenbank: 2437/5175 - Ausgabedatum: 03.08.2012 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
