David,

         No problem. I was attempting a bit of humor.  I kept looking for the 
preferences after your posts the other day, but just today found your reply on 
another Q&A forum. Deleted the preferences files and everything came alive. It 
is strange that it occurs as often as it does. I have had the utility run for 
days and then unexpectedly up jumps the devil. I remember an app I wrote for a 
Forestry group a few years ago. Worked great and all of the sudden one day, it 
just started having trouble. That turned out to be a memory leak, from an 
object I did not release. The usage had gone up and crossed a threshold. 
Embarrassing but true.

        Actually I was discussing the repair permissions with Apple Care today 
and it is supposedly on effective on the OS and apps from Apple. So now I 
wonder how it worked for me. Must have done something. Who knows?

        As far as folder name changes, none here. and as far as I know the 
"help" is always in its default location. I am running the Beta release but I 
have a folder where I put that stuff and it is there all the time. 

        I have always said, there comes a time in software development when we 
programmers can "hear" a click. Everything falls into place. It may take a 
while sometimes but it will come. Programming is a science , Yes, but it is 
also an art form. Believe me you have not stepped on any toes where I am 
concerned. I found your responses to be quite friendly and certainly without 
any attempt to put one in his place.

        And if you still want the files, I will send the next one to you, 
unfortunately I did not keep the ones from today.

        73s and I hope to see you on the air sometimes and we can swap war 
stories.

Jim, W4ATK


On Aug 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, David Fleming <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> My apologies if I came across as chastising. It certainly was not my intent. 
> It's just that in my experience, repairing permissions has not solved the 
> problem. It is *usually* not related to permissions at all. If you do get a 
> crash that is solved by repairing permissions, and it happens often, then 
> something serious is going on with your hard drive. I can't remember the last 
> time I had to repair permissions for any reason, and I've been using Macs for 
> as long as there has been Macs. Repairing permissions has become increasingly 
> less necessary since Panther (10.3) was released.
> 
> The problem with the Elecraft Utilities usually occurs when the firmware 
> folder's name has been changed, or it has been deleted, since the last time 
> the Utility was ran. This can happen, for example, when someone creates a 
> temporary firmware folder to store the beta firmware for download. Once the 
> beta firmware has been loaded, the user no longer needs this temporary folder 
> and will delete it. Then when the Utility runs again, it looks for that 
> deleted folder and when it can't find it, it causes a crash. There are also 
> other situations that can cause problems, such as not having the Help folder 
> in the same location as the app file. There will be new Cocoa versions of all 
> the Utilities released soon that will address this problem. A new version of 
> the KX3 Utility, which addresses these problems, has already been released.
> 
> Again, I didn't mean to step on any toes.
> 
> David, W4SMT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: W4ATK <[email protected]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:25 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] Mac K3 and P3 Utilities
> 
> I often get the following error message which is fatal. "An exception of 
> class NilObjectException was not handled. The application must shut down".
> Downloading new copies of the apps does not help. 
> I suggested  a "Repair Permissions" execution and was "chastised" <BIG GRIN> 
> by the author of the utilities, but it has worked for me in the past although 
> somewhat time consuming.
> So today I am posting the question. what is the remedy? 
> 
> 73s Jim, W4ATK
> 
> 
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