I learned to program with Pascal on an Apple III.  It had two
floppies, a printer card and RS232 card (state of the art). ;o)

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:08:35 -0500, Bill Coleman <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>On Jan 10, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Jack Brindle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This is actually not quite true. The original Mac had some of the library 
>> code in ROM - Quickdraw, the file system, and various IO drivers come to 
>> mind, but the OS was most definitely supplied on floppy disk, and the disk 
>> was absolutely required for the Mac to boot and run. Updates to the OS were 
>> applied on mini floppies for quite some time. Also, over time things like 
>> the file system (going from MFS to HFS), drivers, and most other items were 
>> moved to disk. There was a 2x speed advantage to running from ROM instead of 
>> RAM, but that quickly disappeared as the Mac hardware evolved. By the time 
>> the Mac II was introduced, everything was on disk except for the boot code.
>> 
>> Yes, I have been programming Macs since the original 128K Mac. I still have 
>> two of those around here, and both booted last time I tried. Still have the 
>> original loose-leaf version of "Inside Macintosh" also…
>
>Oh, I remember it well. I think I have two later editions from A-W, now 
>horribly obsolete.
>
>> Now I feel old…
>
>Beats the alternative.
>
>> Jack B, W6FB
>> 
>> p.s., I can't think of anyone who would even consider supporting products 
>> that have had the firmware modified by non-company programmers…
>> Your assessment is right-on in that respect! Embedded control systems 
>> (especially radios) are kept very tight for a reason.
>
>As I remember, there were a lot of developers who ended up doing things they 
>shouldn't, such as tail-patching A-line traps, who later found out the hard 
>way that their software was broken.
>
>Not a great model to follow, IMHO. 
>
>Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: [email protected]
>Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
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>           -- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>
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