No indication which SPE amp. It makes a difference because IIRC the 1K tuner can't be bypassed. The 2K can. I use the 2K-FA. There's no need to use the K3 tuner with the 2K as its input SWR is satisfactorily low. 30W from K3 drives 2K to the legal limit. Off, the 2K tuner is switched out of the ckt. In that configuration if your coax needs tuner help you'd have to use the internal K3 tuner, or an external box.

If the external box can handle output of the SPE amp I'd connect it between amp and antenna. Given a choice I'd want the K3 internal tuner for convenience if nothing else. It remembers its settings per band so your task is only to switch it on or off as needed.

FYI the 2K-FA in standby makes little - if any - fan noise. Not much penalty to have it on whenever the K3 is on. There's a provision for the 2K-FA to receive an "I've just been turned on/off" signal from the K3 that also turns on, and off, the 2K-FA. Don't know about the 1K.

73 Art K6XT~~
Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.
ARRL, GMCC, CW OPS, SDDXC, NAQCC
ARRL TA

On 2013-12-10 10:00, [email protected] wrote:
Re: [Elecraft] Internal Antenna Tuner and SPE Expert Amplifier.eml

Subject:
Re: [Elecraft] Internal Antenna Tuner and SPE Expert Amplifier Questions
From:
WILLIS COOKE <[email protected]>
Date:
2013-12-09 14:51

To:
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>


I just finished reading the SPE instruction manual.  They say that the input 
match of the SPE Expert is good enough that they recommend turning the internal 
tuner of the driving transceiver OFF.  The recommend that you do not cascade a 
tuner such as the Palstar on the output of the SPE.  They do not mention a 
manual tuner at the antenna, but I would think it to be OK as that is what a 
Gamma or T match on a beam would be, as well as other matching devices.  I 
think that the intent is to use the SPE tuner even if you are running the K3 
barefoot but I have not yet completed my installation and put my SPE Expert in 
service.
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart


________________________________
  From:"[email protected]"  <[email protected]>
To:[email protected] Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 7:19 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Internal Antenna Tuner and SPE Expert Amplifier Questions
Good Morning,
It's Mark Griffin KB3Z. I was looking at an SPE Expert amplifier and I see it 
has an internal antenna tuner which can handle SWR's of up to 4:0. But, I was 
wondering if I connected the output of my K3 to the input of the amplifier and 
then the antenna to the output of the amplifier, If I used the K3 internal 
antenna tuner to decrease the SWR to a reasonable level would this work? I 
don't currently have the internal antenna tuner in the K3. It is perhaps a bad 
question to ask, but I am currently using a Palstar AT2K as my antenna tuner. 
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.  Mark Griffin, KB3Z

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