I would agree with Tommy,   some small RIT would be helpful.

It isn't only at 60 wpm that you notice some choppiness, but anything over 30 wpm makes a difference in sending without the QRQ being on. For some reason this is more evident when using KB>

However, in a three way QSO where only one station is off frequency, it seems to work out OK as I have to turn RIT off to copy the station on my frequency. It depends which way the order of TX occurs.

Toby K4NH


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Alderman" <[email protected]>
To: "'Klaus Koppendorfer'" <[email protected]>; "'John Bohnovic'" <[email protected]>
Cc: "'Elecraft Reflector'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT wayne has announced some small ritin the past !!!!


The 'problem' with QRQ CW is that if you are running much over 60 wpm, you have to seriously concentrate on your copy and sending. I personally, do not require Split when operating QRQ, but I sure would love to have RIT for at least 0.5kc. That, for me, would solve the issue. And yes, Elecraft has stated in the past that they would 'look into it', but that was several years ago and I finally gave up on it happening.

73,
Tom - W4BQF


-----Original Message-----
From: Klaus Koppendorfer [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:24 AM
To: Chester Alderman; 'John Bohnovic'
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'; [email protected]
Subject: AW: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT wayne has announced some small rit in the past !!!!

wayne has announced some small rit in the past !!!!

wayne at Apr.28, 2011
If you use QRQ mode (high-speed CW/ultra-fast break-in), you'll notice
that the latest firmware provides a temporary solution to the problem
of having to turn off QRQ mode in order to use SPLIT, RIT, or XIT.
Previously, you had to turn QRQ mode off manually using the CONFIG:CW
QRQ menu entry. Now, engaging any type of split will automatically
turn QRQ mode off, then turn it back on once you've disabled all splits.

We're still planning to allow limited-range RIT with QRQ mode turned
on in a future firmware release. But several QRQ users had suggested
this interim change. I use QRQ mode all the time, and I've found the
change to be very convenient.
73,
Wayne
N6KR

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Chester Alderman [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Montag, 17. Februar 2014 18:39
An: 'John Bohnovic'; Klaus Koppendorfer
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'; [email protected]
Betreff: RE: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT

But if you have several hams in the round-table, you sure do need RIT because you know all hams are not going to be zero beat. Besides that, yes, ever if your one QSO partner is zero beat, you need the ability to slightly change the Rx QRQ frequency so the received tone suits your ears. Copying QRQ requires one to be able to use standard CW receiver functions. That is why I, personally, can't use my K3 for full QSK QRQ operation. Since this issue has been on-going for several years, it most likely can not be fixed? Or it is just being ignored!

73,
Tom - W4BQF


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Bohnovic
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:36 AM
To: Klaus Koppendorfer
Cc: Elecraft Reflector; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT

Do you need the RIT mode when the other station is zero beat with your signal?

John/K4WJ
ex KN8PXG K8PXG ZF2HZ
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 17, 2014, at 3:05 AM, Klaus Koppendorfer <[email protected]> wrote:

It is sad that QRQ mode has no RIT  !!!
Cw up from 30 to 35 WPM hast o use QRQ mode because of struggling dits
and dahs

Many highspeed ops VHSC EHSC has changed from k3 to FT5000 because of
leaking RIT with QRQ with K3

Maybe Wayne will sharpen Firmware in future for QRQ mode

If rit/split is necessary i use 2nd RX but this is not so comfortable

73
Oe6kyg
Klaus


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] I'm Auftrag von Don Wilhelm
Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Februar 2014 22:06
An: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT

Jorge,

AFAIK, probably not. The frequency must be shifted from RX to TX, and with QRQ in effect it is not possible to shift that fast. A K3 with 'chirp' on the ham bands would not be a nice thing to hear.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2014 2:33 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF"
with SPLIT.

Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible?

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