Bill,

If you are not into 'hot and heavy' contesting or DXing in a pileup and/or diversity receive, you will find the 5 pole filters quite adequate.

The "problem" is that the 8 pole filters have a better slope factor and do not have an offset. The offset is only important for diversity reception, and the slope factor is only important in situations where the band conditions are such that there are strong signals on adjacent frequencies -- as might be encountered in heavy contests or DX pileups.

So if you are not interested in having the optimum receive capability in DX pileups and heavy contesting situations, save your $$$ and use the 5 pole filters. Some of us are more casual operators, and the $$$ savings can be significant.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/20/2015 11:17 PM, Bill Coleman wrote:
On Jan 13, 2015, at 10:52 PM, Mike Zbrozek <[email protected]> wrote:

As a cw opr that is planning on buying a K3 next month I would
like to know how many cw ops use/prefer 5 or 8 pole cw filters?
Does anybody use the 1000 Hz 8 pole filter for hunting cq's then
switch over to a 500 or 400 Hz filter? And how many cw ops use a sharper 200 or 
250 Hz filter?

Tnx in Advance

Mike Zbrozek, K8XF
I’m going to buck the trend a little bit. I only have one 8-pole filter — the 
13 kHz FM filter.

I see posts from a lot of guys who have a radio full of 8-pole filters. That’s 
nice — if you can afford it. Those filters are expensive.

During the five years I spent dreaming of owning a K3, I had thought I only 
wanted to have the 8-pole filters. However, my wife (the best XYL ever!) 
ordered a very stock K3 for me for Christmas, and it came with the 2700 Hz 
(5-pole) filter. Swapping out this filter after the fact for the 2800 (8-pole) 
filter is even more expensive than ordering it in the first place.

Because of the expense, I used the stock filter for about six months before 
contemplating anything. I bought the 13 kHz filter because it gave me FM and AM 
receive and transmit capability. I got the 500 Hz (5-pole) filter because 
someone offered it on this list at a greatly discounted price.

The key thing to remember about the K3 is that the DSP IS your filter! You 
don’t have to buy any of those expensive crystal filters. PERIOD. The radio 
works great with just the stock filter.

Do the expensive crystal filters make a difference? Yes. The 500 Hz filter 
makes a difference. I’ve got it configured to kick in at 450 Hz. There’s a 
distinct difference in the audio background noise switching to 450 from 500. 
During the 160m CW contest, this filter knocks down a lot of adjacent channel 
interference. I’m glad I have a narrow roofing filter available for CW, PSK and 
RTTY work.



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