Good point Guy.

That's why a "Round Emblem" Collins S-Line is worth much more than the "Winged Emblem" version, even so quite a few say a particular early * receiver is actually better than their newer ones.

"Does it have the latest mods?" is a very pertinent question when offering a K3 for sale.

Every time the "Big-Three" comes out with a new radio, the street value of old one drops 10% to 30%.

I agree with Elecraft's philosophy. I have an early K3 that is identical in performance with S/N 9XXX.

73, Charlie k3ICH


* Winged 75S-3 vs. a Round 75S-3B

----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <[email protected]>
To: "drewko" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3 Syn


One thing that people need to remember when making a purchase decision on
K3 upgrades, is that in the future, wanting to sell a K3, one of the first
questions will be whether the rig has the newer synthesizer(s). For me,
without, that would be a $300 derating for single RX and a $600 derating
for the old boards. Cost plus inconvenience to bring it up to spec.

It's like selling a K3 that has only a few of the mods, and particularly
not having the new audio board. Someone buys it and immediately sends it
back to the factory to be brought up to date, if they buy it.

And then of course there are the "unintended" positive side benefits of an
upgrade, like the much clearer audio when the AGC significant digit problem
was fixed. Don't know what they are this time around, but I'm sure there
are some.

Beyond that, there is the profit angle, where a small percentage of total
rig value is invested to bring it up to date, avoiding a new rig purchase
to obtain same. Your purchase of upgrade materials rewards that business
strategy and helps insure they keep doing business that way.

If that were not enough, it maintains the reputation of a rig as not
becoming obsolete, vastly improving its resale value.

Seven year old radio, as modified, still at the top of the heap. Just how
good is that.

And still more, that means that any new Elecraft rig will build on top of
proven CURRENT firmware and hardware knowledge, there because there were
customer purchases to support it. The KX3 is a very clear example of that.

Yeah it's certainly YOUR pocketbook and not mine, but hanging back is short
term strategy and what I'm talking about is long term strategy. Don't lose
sight of the long term. Support your radio manufacturer.

73, Guy K2AV

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, drewko <[email protected]> wrote:

Not a bad idea... It would be nice to hear before and after
recordings.

Also, recordings with the RF gain at max and sidetone volume at zero
while the rig is being keyed, in presence of other signals and alone
in the background noise. That should provide a good comparison of
clicks and pops without distraction.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 07:19:42 -0700, you wrote:

>Don, all,
>Discussed this upgrade with Vidi ZS1EL yesterday. Given the already
excellent K3 RX, ours and presumably others' primary interest is improved
QSK, including the new mode reported to reduce clicks/pops at the expense
of a little slower QSK. Could someone with the upgrade installed create and
make available an audio file of the receiver output while transmitting CW
circa 30-40 WPM?  Hearing what it actually sounds like will help with the
decision to buy.
>Thanks & 73,
>John K1JD
>Santa Fe, NM
>

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