X86 processors are now being placed on Arduino sized boards. There are
also full X86 computers as small as an over sized dongle. The Raspberry
Pi is a beautiful piece of engineering. But, it is only a matter of
time before you can buy an X86 in a similar package running Windows 10.
Microsoft has already released Windows 10 for Raspberry PI and the Intel
Edison is just the first shot at bringing X86 down to the Pi level.
It's probably just a matter of months before you can choose a Pi or an
Intel equipped X86 equivalent.
That said, jumping on the Pi train might be short-lived trip. It's
probably possible to diddle the compiler settings and get the Utilities
working on Pi. But, are there really enough interested parties to make
that worth while? Hard to say.
Meanwhile, I love my little Pi boxes and continue to be amazed at what
they are capable of.
Doug -- K0DXV
On 4/9/2016 5:52 AM, Kevin Stover wrote:
Well....
Elecraft have decided to do neither for the time being so....
On 4/9/2016 3:20 AM, Andy McMullin wrote:
Don,
Just to clarify. The Raspberry Pi uses a range of completely standard
Linux operating systems EXCEPT that it does not use the X86 range of
processors. It uses the ARM range instead. It does not need to
“emulate” Linux in all aspects — it IS Linux in all aspects.
Applications that are correctly compiled work just like those for
other Linux systems. For example, the standard FLDIGI source for
Linux just recompiles under Linux on the Raspberry Pi and then works.
The designers of the Raspberry Pi are unlikely to rework their
hardware to use a different processor — especially when the ARM one
powers so many smartphones and other modern devices and the X86 one
is hamstrung by needing to retain backwards compatibility with a
design from over 30 years ago.
On the other hand, for the Elecraft Utilities to work on the Pi, all
that would be required would be to compile the Linux source BUT for
the ARM processor rather than the X86. Either Elecraft could do it
or, as was suggested, they could release the source and (almost)
anyone could do it.
—
Regards
Andy, G8TQH
On 8 Apr 2016, at 23:32, Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> wrote:
To ask Elecraft to provide Utilities for any and all small operating
systems is unreasonable IMHO. The mainstream OS of Windows, Mac and
Linux *are* supported, but recently there have been a number of OS
variants that have appeared on the horizon (and there are likely to
be more to come) and that includes the Rasberry Pi, and several
other 'computers' that have recently appeared on the hobbyist market.
Just because the most recent device can do RS-232 (or USB)
communications does not mean it should be individually supported by
hardware manufacturers. It would be more productive to encourage
those writing software for those devices to request that they
emulate Windows, or Mac, or Linux in all aspects so one could use
the applications written for those mainstream OS versions to run
without problems on whichever platform those "hobby" devices may be
using.
If the Rasberry Pi OS becomes stable over time, and is in use for a
significant percentage of the Elecraft community, then it may
eventually be supported on its own, but for the time being, as I
understand the Raspberry Pi, its OS is a version of Linux, but not
everything works like the main Linux platform -- so until you can
convince the Raspberry Pi developers to create a version of its OS
that is compatible in all respects to Linux, you will not have
success. The market penetration for Raspberry Pi is just not great
enough at this time for manufacturers to create software that will
run on it. Much to the dismay of those who have Raspberry Pi
running and controlling their ham stations.
73,
Don W3FPR
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